----- Original Message ----
> From: William Beaty <bi...@eskimo.com>
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 10:35:34 PM
> Subject: [Vo]:Steorn toroids

> 
> But note that in the above, the *slowly* changing bias field (~1Hz) is
> able to amplify a much higher (~3KHz) audio signal.  WOuldn't it be odd if
> the same phenomenon could allow us to amplify apparently DC motion; to
> extract some energy from a battery-biased toroid (essentially 0Hz,) by
> sweeping a permanent magnet past it (producing maybe 5Hz "audio" to be
> amplified?)  For the ringing steel, the energy output phase was in the
> correct direction to amplify the initial small mechanical vibration.  It
> doesn't act like hysterisis loss, instead it's hysterisis gain!  A large
> slow version of this effect might resemble a battery-biased toroid placed
> next to a wheel with supermagnets on its rim.

Would this explain Thane Hiens "regenerative acceleration" effect. I don't how 
closely you have been following his workbut you should take a look at his 
youtube channel

http://www.youtube.com/user/ThaneCHeins

Harry

> Perhaps rather than a purely DC effect, the ferrous toroid core even
> becomes progressively magnetized by the bias field plus the AC coming from
> the moving magnets.  It's nonlinear, a bit like a diode, since things only
> happen on one half of the AC waveform.  If the excess Barkhausen noise
> output is in the correct phase to accelerate the rotating magnet, then the
> effect would appear only after the DC bias was first applied.  Then would
> cease after awhile, but could be restored, perhaps by reversing the
> battery leads, or by demagnetizing;  by briefly exposing the toroid cores
> to a bulk-tape-eraser.
> 
> OK, when eventually the Steorn technique is revealed, I'll come back here
> and see how close my guess really was.


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