Frank: I have a somewhat 'nincompoop' take(& comment); and please don't take offense. This is also couched in no small amount of hyperbola. I'm sorry; I can only be 'good' for just so long.~:-)
TIME vs UNTIME: It always nags at me that the OmniCosmos that we are trying desparately to fathom, define, empricise, etc. is 'not' trying to make it easy for our 'math.' In short; once we 'grasp' it as best we might, it subsequently 'serves us' to apply a mathmatical-theorectic 'over-coat' to our current ephiphany/picture; and as studied 'tailors' we it give our best shot at getting the math to 'fit.' Think about; the 'fit' is NEVER PERFECT---------->NEVER. . . and that nomatter how many Nobels etc. that we congratulate ourselves with. . .. We are an awsome company of tailors; and some of us are far better than others. However; the cosmos basically does not give-a-flip. It tends to be unruly and prefers to go naked & wildly indifferent; and truely 'loves' being WYRD just for the ! ! !FUN! ! ! of it. My pet Gravion-Physics model 'maybe' is somewhat unique in that the 'Singularity' is the prime model for just about every energy-'object' in our observable/quasi-knowable Universe. I call this SPACE-TIME-NORMAL as a logic-basis but I'm mostly thinking that TIME is merely the surface-perception-allusion of a particular species of bio-planetary hominids that we happen to be fairly familiar with. IF EVERY ATOM's Proton is indeed a singularity that those pesky coffee-stir 'tails' ARE connected DIRECTLY to Virtual-No-Time/Virtual-No-Distance AexoBlackSpace. In short MOST OF EVERYTHING WE PHYSICALLY ARE AN SEE, especially if it is made of Atoms/Protons/Mass etc. is MOSTLY STUFF OF VIRTUAL-NO-TIME & 'time' is a thin veneer of what IS REALLY HAPPENING. IN SHORT our perceptually 'convenient-allusion' in that we live and function 3D-time-linear 'world' is basically a VERY-FLAT and NON-REAL CONCEPT. IN VERY SHORT: As soon as we KNOW-OURSELVES within VIRTUAL-NO-TIME we will start to SEE/BE-IN/FUNCTION WITHIN the Hyper-Plastic Realm of our PSYCHO-real energy-mass MANIPULATING ability & subsequent TIME-BENDING/negating-TECHNOLOGIES. IN HYPER SHORT: We will soon be playing with TIME/linear-time-allusion as if it were SILLY-PUTTY. Atomic density is constantly being 'restored-sustained' as a dynamic-energy field worm-holed---->TAILED---->into AexoBlackSpace//aka//Parallel Adjacent Aexo-Tachyon(speed)Carrier-Wave DarkEnergySpace. Add speed/acceleration/energydensity--->adds energy--->adds worm-eye-proton-dialation-----AHA! ! ! ADD THE EXPERIENCE-AWARENESS-REALITY that Virtual-No-Time Field IS THE PERVASIVELY IN-CREEPING REALITY while simultaneously NEGATING PERCEPTUAL-BIO-AWARENESS of SEQUENCIAL-TIME-LINEARITY allusion. AND THIS is the 'new' LSD which will REFUSE TO GO AWAY. Maybe we need to begin to REALLY put on our SEVEN-LEAQUES BOOTS and FLING WIDE THE DOORS OF PERCEPTION; because soon the GROWING-SPEED-DENSITY of our VERY ATOMS will rendered the OLD-SCHOOL TIME LINEAR SENSORY-DESCRIPTIVE empiric-tools to be an OBSOLETE FORM OF BRAILLE.(which it indeed is as we speak!) Coming is a VIRTUAL-NO-TIME TSUNAMI which will NOT ABATE but grow nomatter how much EXCELLENT MATH that we throw at it. That picture will be like trying to stop a charging elephant by throwing dung at it! As a matter of fact; that's pretty much what we are trying to do NOW. . . . Again this is HyperEnergetic & HyperFluidic and is the UBIQUITOUS BIG THING while the 'relative' TIME EXPERIENCE is soon to be seen as an ELONGATED SOLAR-PLANETARY contiguous WORM-HOLE in progress which is indeed our entire PERCEPTION OF LINEAR-TIME is a paradox because we are within A 'TIME' ALLUSION Einstein-Rosen compressed DATA-STREAM which we here-to-fore we've called PAST-PRESENT-HISTORY. But as we begin to RIGHTLY PERCIEVE that the FLOW is OMNIDIRECTIONAL and that we can learn to TRANSIT and project the WORM-HOLE ENERGY FED MIND-ENERGY up and down the quasi-time-wormhole. THAT'S A GOOD ONE----->QUASI-TIME will replace the allusion of REAL-TIME. And that is what I've been calling the emergence of TIME-MOBIUS AWARENESS AGE being upon us. 'TIME' IS NOT FLAT---------->'TIME' as a DEVICE is merely a STAGE PROP/NOTION---role playing device. VIRTUAL-NO-TIME is the HUGE ICE BERG and our SENSORY LIMITATION merely makes us believe that TIME is a REAL & LASTING THING, which it is most SURELY NOT. THE ENERGY OF OUR SENTIENT MINDS; is REALLY a creature of VIRTUAL-NO-TIME AexoBlackSpace. In that realm in NON-PLANETARY immutable-ENERGY-existence we SWIM AS DOLPHINS. Our perception of LINEAR-PLANETARY-TIME is actually a MIND-GAME that we play with ourselves in order to INTERACT ON THIS STAGE & THIS PLAY and any particular historical setting which we choose to interact with. SHAKESPEARE UNDERDERSTOOD the ILLUSION of TIME as good as Einstein & maybe better. HENSE: "The whole world is a stage; and every body plays his/her part." From: froarty...@comcast.net To: alset9te...@hotmail.com CC: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:WAVE(s) \'not\' Particles/Check\'VORTEX\' talks-- Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 19:48:16 -0500 Jack Harbach-O'Sullivan said on Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:34:23 -0800 [snip] * * * POINT: THE FASTER MASS TRAVELS(Einstein/correct),the more ENERGY-Mass it gathers(because Protons/Atoms are 'Micro-Singularities' making the entire-mass flow a running composite singularity/worm hole/WHICH is the VERY 'TIME-STREAM), this INCREASE OF MASS/ENERGY equals 'Increased Speed-Density' which also 'DIALATES' protons/atoms 'singularity-centres' which are micro-wormhole/powered by AexoBlackSpace ingress ELECTRO-GRAVIONIC PLASMA; and this ALSO INCREASES SPEED/DENSITY aka ELECTRO-PLASMIC GRAVION POTENTIAL aka GRAVITY. [/snip] Jack, I know the “(Einstein/correct)” model is preferred over a neo Lorentzian model but when you speak of gathering more energy mass The faster mass travels relative to protons/atoms wouldn’t it be easier to conceptualize this from a Lorentz model with a moving ether. The Model then reduces to simple Pythagorean relationships. I don’t know if protons/atoms represent 'Micro-Singularities' making the entire-mass flow a running composite singularity/worm hole/WHICH is the VERY 'TIME-STREAM), but I do agree with modeling the time stream from the nuclear scale, I think the textbook depictions of space time where space represents only a thin fish net is far more accurate than the authors intended which is why I prefer considering time and gravity from the perspective of a single atom. My position is that 3 dimensional space is an illusion of the macro scale and that the time axis intercepts an almost flat spatial axis. Your post seems to propose a “Tesla” like position where the singularities “eat” or sink the time stream, I prefer instead a Puthoff-like model where vacuum fluctuations manifest themselves in our “almost flat” spatial dimension (The Present) restoring energy to decaying orbitals and establishing the stable orbits for every element in the periodic chart as these fluctuations pass from the future to the past. This temporal axis ether would explain the results of M&M, agrees with the concept of equivalence (relative motion between space axis and moving vacuum fluctuations on the time axis)and even relativity if you consider the vacuum flux can change speed but adjust the width of the “present” such that we are unaware of changes in C except relatively measured against a different inertial frame – I like Ron Millets’ analogy of stirred coffee where the orbiting froth gets smaller as you stir faster but the trunk of the vortex going down into the coffee gets deeper such that the volume of the entire vortex/orbit remains constant. I think our illusion of 3D space stems from the accumulation of time acroos this “almost flat” spatial axis we call the Present. Best Regards Fran [ VORTEX: Again with the 'caps;' definitely incorrigable. . . . I've refuted the 'notion-theory' that there 'Tachyons'(hyper-faster-than LIGHTSPEED particles) & also 'Gravi(tons) aka 'Particles responsible for GRAVITY. . . these exist but 'not' as particles but rather an ubiqitous (extension of AexoBlackSpace) CARRER-WAVE which is by-nature ALTERNATING CURRENT. This would indicate that upon this AexoBlackSpace SUPER CARRIER-WAVE(Carrier Wave that 'carrys' ALL other waves in the UNIFED FIELD of the Aexoverse/Universe/OMNIVERSE) that POTENTIALLY transit is AUTOMATIC back and forth in the TIME-STREAM/FLOW. Also the BIG-IDEA is that the GRAVION-TACHYON Carrier-WAVE-two-way-AC-STREAM/FLOW dictates the steady directional acceleration of the Galaxies.(I predicted this FIRST on the PLANET before 'HUBBLE' came on line) & when 'HUBBLE CONFIRMED' then I became a CONSULTANT for NASA's 'ADVANCED PROPULSION RESEARCH PROJECT.' This is 'not' B.S. The bottom line is that the FLOW OUTWARD is indeed a TRANS-TEMPORAL AC-EINSTEIN-ROSEN PATHWAY and GRAVITATIONAL CONCENTRATED SPEED-DENSITY is the PRIME-DEVICE-of it's existence as such. * * * POINT: THE FASTER MASS TRAVELS(Einstein/correct),the more ENERGY-Mass it gathers(because Protons/Atoms are 'Micro-Singularities' making the entire-mass flow a running composite singularity/worm hole/WHICH is the VERY 'TIME-STREAM), this INCREASE OF MASS/ENERGY equals 'Increased Speed-Density' which also 'DIALATES' protons/atoms 'singularity-centres' which are micro-wormhole/powered by AexoBlackSpace ingress ELECTRO-GRAVIONIC PLASMA; and this ALSO INCREASES SPEED/DENSITY aka ELECTRO-PLASMIC GRAVION POTENTIAL aka GRAVITY. The TIME-MOBIUS deal is that Mass-Glaxies at a given point of their respective outward jouney toward 'surrounding/Universe-border' AexoBlackSpace that Mass's INCREASED SPEED-DENSITY exceeds the SPEED-DENSITY of the 'TEMPORAL-PAST's POSITIONAL LOCATION' on the 'outward' journey. In short the 'Future's more massive gravity-quotient causes the FUTURE to exert increasingly MORE DETERMININATE(on events) influence that the PAST heretofore exerted on the future. CUTTING TO THE CHASE: From here forward the FUTURE EVOLVES THE PAST increasingly more than the PAST has EVOLVED THE FUTURE. HENSE: TIME-MOBIUS transtemporal interaction is ECLIPSING old-style TIME-LINEAR EVOLUTION. Lets call this thing: TRANSVOLUTION. And also the BIG-IDEA is that the 'AexoBlackSpace Omni-Super-CarrierWave' is ALSO the TACHYON(speed)GRAVION Hyper-M-Brane UNIFIED FIELD WAVE that CONNECTS EVERYTHING as ONE UNIFIED VAST OMNIDIMENSIONAL WHOLE. If you 'search' M-Brane Theory & Super-Gravity Theory you will see the mere beginnings of this concept from the perspective of other scientist's minds than my own(and my 'ideas' are not 'their' fault~;-). _________________________________________________________________ Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? 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