Ok, I'm missing something here, how does having robotic factories give
people jobs?
Oh wait, I know http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFR07vsnWjA


On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:57 AM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:

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> http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/careers/japans-economic-stagnation-is-creating-a-nation-of-lost-youths/19580780/
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> This is scary, and sadly it is not unlike the way the USA is heading.
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> However, as an optimist I can see that Japan is poised to lead the way to a
> viable solution, which we in the USA can emulate this time around. It would
> be a nice role-reversal for them to repay a 50 year old favor (of
> re-industrializing their economy, which we first ravaged of course).
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> The biggest international lie and fiasco of all times is so-called the
> “free trade” myth, which we in the USA brought into existence primarily to
> “spread the wealth” to an impoverished post-war world - and it did work for
> that. Permit me to rant-on about this for a while, as it is entirely
> overlooked as a political agenda of anyone.
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> Japan was a prime early beneficiary of free trade, and they later
> reciprocated to allow the rest of Asia to industrialize. But the limit of
> international wealth redistribution (via this particular method) has been
> reached, and we must now find viable alternatives. But first we must
> eliminate this colossal impediment to progress – and ditch free trade
> altogether - in order to maintain our place. Enough is enough. We do not
> need to continue this level of generosity.
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> I expect Japan to do this shortly. Call it “isolationism” if you must – who
> cares what label is put on it. Free trade is not free and never was anything
> more than a way to bring the rest of the world out of poverty – which
> methodology was then quickly bastardized by the mega-financiers (like
> Goldman Sachs), to maximize their own profits by creating an illusions of
> efficiency (via currency manipulation), and to prolong the myth by providing
> temporarily cheap goods in place of lost factory jobs.
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> We have a window of opportunity to change this idiotic structural
> deficiency, however, so it is not inevitable that we sink to the depth of
> “grass-eaters” - but alas it will probably take more political will-power
> than any group here can muster. Japan owes us a favor, and this could be it.
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> Honda to the rescue (to be explained).
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> In my opinion (warped and idealistic as it may be) – this structural change
> in eliminating a myth must involve a returning to a neo-industrial society,
> where we make a clean break with the past and to actually dump China, Europe
> and Japan as trading partners !! and instead we reindustrialize America,
> using robotics. This will be painful at first.
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> Under the new rules of trade, we are not really isolated – so any foreign
> country can invest freely here in factories to produce goods they design -
> but they will no longer be allowed to import goods made elsewhere. Yes, it
> will mean the end of dirt cheap consumer goods, but it will also mean the
> end of layoffs, the end of the wild swings in the business cycle, the end of
> Mac-jobs, and the end of despair for middle class youth who have no real
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> Well-paid neo-industrial workers will be able to afford higher priced US
> made goods. And they will not be confined to a life of drudgery either. We
> can force capitalism to make an important new place for them. The new
> paradigm for a factory job, and there can be tens of millions of this type
> of job - will be to own, maintain, and supervise a handful of industrial
> robots 24/7. We can give every worker a personal stake in this by forcing
> business to give equity stakes to workers as the ONLY permitted owner of
> robotics.
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> This will be an “on-call” job and will require a specialized but NOT
> high-tech re-education. The skill level will be approximately that of video
> game enthusiast or machinist - and much of the “work” can be done at home by
> LAN or smart-phone, with occasional real visits to the factory for hands-on
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> Farm, mining and some service jobs will be similar. The entire economy will
> shift to robotics, but not necessarily because they are really needed to
> save money – but because they are desirable in the long term for social
> goals of full and meaningful work to human robo-tenders.
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> This will cost more at first – but not as much as a needless war, for
> instance. And in a decade it will be much cheaper. Free trade is a lure that
> always turns against the importer – when the currency degrades, which is
> inevitable and as the dollar continues to do, and that is the “hidden cost
> “that is going to kill us if we do not ditch the present system now.
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> But the one necessary prime rule that avoids conglomerate control at this
> level – is that NO non-human entity, including corporations will be allowed
> to own robots (to ensure human employment to the robo-tenders). Businesses
> must contract out for robotic labor, and the new unions will be the trade
> co-ops that operate as middle-men in the three-way process between business
> – neo-worker – and lender. These trade co-ops can be run by the neo-Lawyers,
> a group which will be forced out of their present work by new laws demanding
> arbitration for every disagreement :)
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> For instance, the “new GM” can produce cars at an assembly plant, but
> instead of hiring 5000 hourly workers through a union, they would hire 1000
> robot owners through the new kind of trade cooperative. These 1000 will each
> have 5-10 robots that work 24/7 and the factory can produce three times the
> normal level of automobiles. Yes, GM is already robotized at one level, so
> this only a progression to a certain type of factory-replacement robot. You
> may have seen an early prototype called Asimo:
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> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1210345008392050115#
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> Our technology level for implementation of this is not quite there in 2010,
> but in a few years it will be there. Perhaps Japan will initially lead the
> way and show us how to pull this off from a top-down structural perspective.
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> With political will-power and robotics technology, we can eliminate the
> myth of free-trade in a decade and return to a level of wealth not seen here
> since the sixties and seventies… which is about the time Honda started
> sending over well-made cheap motor-cycles.
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