On 9/22/2010 1:26 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
I do not see how this can work! They are going with the wind, so if they start to travel at the same speed as the wind, the propeller should stop turning.

Maybe I am missing something.
Yes what an interesting puzzle! But knowing that it can be done and armed with the clues that the device has wheels and a propeller - it doesn't take very long to figure out how it could be done.

Consider the fact that it takes almost no energy to travel at the same speed with the wind, and also consider that since you have access to both the air (via the propeller) and the ground (via the wheels), and since these things are in motion with respect to each other (the wind), it must be possible to extract energy from that differential motion and use it to drive the device faster than the wind. The only question is how!

Now suppose the wheels have a circumference of say 1 meter and suppose we set the pitch of the propeller so that it also has a screw pitch of 1 meter per revolution and then suppose we connect these two things together with a 1:1 drive shaft arrangement. Now we have the situation that no matter what speed the device moves at *in still air*, the propeller slices perfectly edgewise through the air and produces no thrust or drag force via the propeller or wheels.

Now supposing we cut the shaft and interpose an electrical generator in the shaft so that its stator is linked to the wheels and its rotor is linked to the propeller. Now we have built a windmill generator that works identically regardless of its motion along the ground! If there is no wind then no matter what speed it rolls at with respect to the air, no power is produced or consumed by the generator. But supposing there is some wind - then again no matter what speed it rolls at with respect to the wind - the wind produces the same differential motion between the stator and armature and thus exactly the same power whether it is moving or stationary!

So this is the type of device we are looking for. It can roll along at the same speed as the wind - consuming almost negligible energy in air friction (because it is not moving relative to the air) and only a minute amount of energy in wheel and shaft bearing friction (thanks to modern bearings etc) - and all the time it can be generating exactly the same power as if it was locked to the ground with the wind driving the generator via the propeller in the normal manner. Clearly this power is available to be used to drive the device faster than the minimal friction situation of rolling at the same speed as the wind.

The only remaining question is the actual detail of how this available power can be most efficiently applied to the wheels. My guess is that you don't bother with a generator but simply have a variable ratio gear box between the propeller and wheels. Or simplest of all have a variable pitch propeller!

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