Horace: Yes, I've noticed the postings out of order... For now we just deal with it.
Thanks for the analysis, and I'll have to read it fully later, but I'd like to say two things at this time: 1) If what you mean by "resonant tunneling" is, "Resonant tunneling refers to tunneling in which the electron transmission coefficient through a structure is sharply peaked about certain energies", Then, NO, that is NOT the kind of tunneling I am envisioning. You are still operating inside the mainstream QM box, and imposing their concept of tunneling on my model. I'm way outside that box! But its something that I've been pondering for decades. The other comment of yours that I'd like to respond to is... Horace wrote: "All forms of cold fusion can only be described to Ockham's satisfaction by an electron at least momentarily in the newly fused nucleus." My (qualitative) model does have electrons tunneling thru the nucleus... In fact they do it ALL THE TIME, continuously, but they traverse it so quickly that the chances of catching one near to or in the nucleus is practically NIL. To get into a bit more detail, and only looking at electrons, I see them as oscillators (forget right now trying to determine 'what' is oscillating). Like any oscillation, they have to slow down, reverse direction and then speed up to some maximum, then slow down again and reverse direction. Just looking at one electron, the vast majority of the TIME (95+%), the oscillation is at the two extremes (DISTANCE wise) because it is having to slow down and reverse direction. These extremes are what we PERCEIVE to be the electron orbitals or shells. This is where we 'see' the electrons, since these extremes are where the ocsillations have slowed down and reversed direction; this is where they are MOST of the time. By the time 'it' gets to the minute volume that is the 'nucleus', it (the wave?) is traveling at its maximum velocity and traverses the width of the nucleus in an extremely short period of time (10e-30secs??)... That's why electron tunneling IS PERCEIVED to have such a low probability -- because the velocity of the electron oscillation is at its max when it traverses the nucleus, and we don't yet have a 'strobe light' fast enough to stop the action. It is nearly impossible to catch it anywhere near the nucleus. In order to catch it, the strobe light would need to have an extremely short pulse width, extremely fast repetition rate, and also need to be tunable to allow adjusting the phase relationship between the strobe light pulse and the location of the electron (wave)... i.e., a temporary delay of say 10e-33sec would slightly shift the phase relationship when it is close to the nucleus. Here is a hint about what I'm trying to convey: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/27515 "...probing atoms with two pulses of different-wavelength light that are carefully-timed (IN THE PROPER PHASE RELATIONSHIP) to take snapshots of the tunnelling process." "In practice the two pulses must be synchronized to within several BILLION-BILLIONTHS of a second to achieve any sort of accuracy.." [That's 10e-18!] "Finally, using mirrors to carefully alter the delay, the physicists could chart the tunnelling of the electrons with a resolution of less than one femtosecond (10-15 s)." This may NOT be good enough to actually see what is happening, although its catching a glimpse! So the technology is getting there, but do we really know the frequency of electron oscillations??? Is a femtosecond laser fast enough to act as a strobe light to 'stop action' an electron's oscillation??? Are current measurements just catching a subharmonic??? In the above description, I've restricted the movement of the oscillations to one dimension. In reality, the extremely short interaction with what's inside the nucleus, as it traverses it, causes the linear axis of the electron oscillation to (randomly?) move all around more or less pivoting on the center of the nucleus... This would explain why we PERCEIVE the electron as occupying a more or less spherical shell. -Mark -----Original Message----- From: Horace Heffner [mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 3:39 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:flies in Ockham's face Vortex must be holding up some posts. I am seeing posts in out of time order, and quotes of posts not yet reaching me. In response to Mark, I think resonant tunneling concepts may not provide the simplest interpretation of what is happening. Foremost, they do not account for the lack of energetic signatures, especially in heavy element LENR. All forms of cold fusion can only be described to Ockham's satisfaction by an electron at least momentarily in the newly fused nucleus. My theory: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/CFnuclearReactions.pdf accounts for this electron being present in heavy nuclei, along with the tunneling hydrogen nucleus, due to a joint tunneling of the electron and hydrogen nucleus, even though they never have above ground state binding energy. [deleted... To be discussed later]
