You can lead a mule to a barrel full of hot water from an Ecat,
but you can't make him think...

Well, actually, having just ragged the Pros here, I owe them an
apology, as they offer politely and clearly expressed views in this
forthright, fair debate in dialogue with the convincing comments of
the Cons, which I find persuasive --
where is Joshua Cude ? -- we need you!

within mutual service,  Rich Murray

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