On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence <sa...@pobox.com> wrote:
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> On 11-11-01 09:36 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
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> Stephen A. Lawrence <sa...@pobox.com> wrote:
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>> Since the pump rate was constant, that means the power level was constant
>> with a precision of +/- 0.09 percent.   (That's 9/100 of 1 percent.)  This,
>> in a process which is said to be hard to start and hard to control.
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> Either that, or the water level fluctuated. That seems more likely to me.
> When it starts to rise, you increase the reaction. When it falls too far,
> you throttle it.
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> This is, of course, all old stuff being reiterated here.  In the test from
> last spring, the electrical power level was (supposedly) fixed; if it wasn't
> then the calorimetry was nonsense.  Consequently it's not at all clear how
> the reaction rate was being controlled; the system, as described, was
> apparently running open-loop.  (Some people have imagined interesting
> feedback  controls in the blue box but no such thing has ever been claimed
> by anyone who actually knew.)
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> In the 1MW test it's less clear cut, but one thing stands out:  There's no
> obvious indicator that Rossi could have used to tell him when it was time to
> turn it up or down.  Output temp would lag too much to be used as the
> control variable, and the result would have been a "hunting" temperature
> which wandered all over the place, certainly not an essentially constant
> temperature which was indicative of a power level which was nailed to better
> than 1/2 %.  It would be nice to imagine a sight glass, and Rossi's hand on
> the throttle with his eye glued to the glass, but it's not clear such exists
> anywhere except in our imaginations.
>
> Whatever, all such concerns have been dismissed in earlier posts, so there's
> not a lot of point in arguing it further.
>

If Rossi used the word "control" he might mean something different. ;)
Maybe he meant he can initiate the self sustain mode by first
modulating the input power like so...

Harry

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