On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Mary Yugo <maryyu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> . . . but that someone could make inadequate observations and jump to
>> erroneous conclusions which then they reported to you -- that's as credible
>> as the proposition that the information is correct.
>>
>
> Are you serious? Do you sincerely believe that a professional scientist
> could spend several days in the laboratory talking to people, looking at
> instruments and data, and not recognize that the equipment is fake and the
> researchers are pretending? As my contact put it, "I know a laboratory when
> I see one."
>

Uhhun.  I hope he knows whose it is also.  I remember that Defkalion used
someone else's (Piantelli's?) images of high vacuum equipment in one of
their news releases as if it were their own.



> ...
>
> Perhaps when you say people made "inadequate observations and jumped to
> conclusions" you meant the Defkalion researchers did. After all, we are
> talking about their conclusions, which you can read at their website. My
> contact is only confirming their conclusions. He did not make them. If that
> is what you mean, you are suggesting that a large group of professional
> scientists might make inadequate observations and jump to conclusions
> continuously for years, without ever discovering their mistakes.
>

I am suggesting your contact may have misconstrued what he saw -- that's
all.  Since we have no idea what he saw, it's sort of premature to make
conjectures about it.



> That is not possible. The scientific method works. Engineering and
> instruments work.
>

Yup.  But we see nothing about any science or instruments here.  It's all
hearsay and claims thus far.


And remember, ... you're the person who thought the Rossi demo of October 6
was iron clad.  It probably did involve some iron (or steel) but hardly was
conclusive.

Please the links about that which I provided about that issue
here:          http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg59525.html

Or here they are directly (translation required):

http://imgur.com/o7soB

http://www.energeticambiente.it/sistemi-idrogeno-nikel/14728165-apparato-rossi-focardi-verita-o-bufala-135.html#post119275652

http://www.energeticambiente.it/sistemi-idrogeno-nikel/

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