On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Mary Yugo <maryyu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> . . . but that someone could make inadequate observations and jump to >> erroneous conclusions which then they reported to you -- that's as credible >> as the proposition that the information is correct. >> > > Are you serious? Do you sincerely believe that a professional scientist > could spend several days in the laboratory talking to people, looking at > instruments and data, and not recognize that the equipment is fake and the > researchers are pretending? As my contact put it, "I know a laboratory when > I see one." > Uhhun. I hope he knows whose it is also. I remember that Defkalion used someone else's (Piantelli's?) images of high vacuum equipment in one of their news releases as if it were their own. > ... > > Perhaps when you say people made "inadequate observations and jumped to > conclusions" you meant the Defkalion researchers did. After all, we are > talking about their conclusions, which you can read at their website. My > contact is only confirming their conclusions. He did not make them. If that > is what you mean, you are suggesting that a large group of professional > scientists might make inadequate observations and jump to conclusions > continuously for years, without ever discovering their mistakes. > I am suggesting your contact may have misconstrued what he saw -- that's all. Since we have no idea what he saw, it's sort of premature to make conjectures about it. > That is not possible. The scientific method works. Engineering and > instruments work. > Yup. But we see nothing about any science or instruments here. It's all hearsay and claims thus far. And remember, ... you're the person who thought the Rossi demo of October 6 was iron clad. It probably did involve some iron (or steel) but hardly was conclusive. Please the links about that which I provided about that issue here: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg59525.html Or here they are directly (translation required): http://imgur.com/o7soB http://www.energeticambiente.it/sistemi-idrogeno-nikel/14728165-apparato-rossi-focardi-verita-o-bufala-135.html#post119275652 http://www.energeticambiente.it/sistemi-idrogeno-nikel/