From what I understand
with regards to DGT's licensing, is that the license fee gives you
all the necessary info to start the production. So all you need to
do is find a premises of sufficient size and then DGT will give
the blue prints for the manufacturing plant. what is not clear is
if the license fee also includes the tools and machinery in the
plant.
I think (just my hunch) DGT were working on their reactor before
the agreement with Rossi fell apart. From their dealing with Rossi
they probably discovered that they wouldn't be able to work with
him and that he most likely would fail to deliver on the terms of
their agreement, i.e. demo a device running for 48hours. They
probably kept close to Rossi and went along with him all the while
they could find out as much as they could about the workings of
his reactor and at any opportunity steal his IP. Again this is
just my thinking.
I find it hard to believe they magically developed their own
reactor that quickly (when others are still trying) and have
supposedly got it reliable and producing high temp steam without
any IP transfer from Rossi. They must have got the secret or seed
from Rossi that allowed them to proceed so quickly.
It still remains to be seen how quick DGT get their product to
market though and it all depends on them getting their
certification.
On 24/01/12 13:00, Wolf Fischer wrote:
Probably Rossi has some NI persons on the controlling front...? If
Rossis statement about production facility planning is true there
must be other engineers involved (although the thought of Rossi
doing every single piece of engineering on himself makes me laugh
:))
Perhaps (my theory): Defkalion started gathering professionals and
therefore working on their own reactor from the beginning of
August, whereas Rossi started the more professionalized work after
the "successful" 1MW plant test (at least it seems like this to
me). Therefore Defkalion might have a 3 to 4 month lead on Rossi?
However, what interests me then, is: How long until one can buy a
Hyperion? (given that the certification runs fine for Defkalion).
As they only sell licenses the licensee has to first start
developing a concept on what the production looks like. This in
turn might Rossi give some lead back, doesn't it?
Wolf
I think Rossi's best
chance is to stop giving out contradicting information /
statements. A couple of weeks ago the home e-cat was going to
ship at the end of this year, then yesterday he states that it
won't be for another 12-18 months. What happened? There is the
continuing inconclusive specification of the home e-cat, not
to mention all the issues with the 1MW plant. It strikes me
that he seems to be in a bit of panic mode as he's realised
that DGT may indeed have something and beat him to market with
a superiorly engineered product.
Rossi really needs to
get a team of professional engineers to take his products and
engineer them to refined commercial products. That is assuming
he hasn't already got a team doing this. If he has there is
not much evidence of it.
As for Ampenergo, it
still exists and is still active http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:211773132719711::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:1852164.
Why the e-mail address doesn't work is anyone’s guess. Saying
that has anyone managed to get in contact with Hydrofusion? I
sent a couple of e-mails in the past and never got a reply or
any acknowledgement of them receiving my e-mail. It's things
like this that fuel the sceptics and the scam rumours.
What is surprising, assuming DGT have what they say they have,
is how quick DGT managed to come up with their own reactor
technology. If no information transfer occurred between Rossi
and DGT as Rossi states (which I don't believe) then DGT
really pulled one out of the hat. I'm surprised no one else
has managed to replicate yet if DGT managed it without any IP
transfer from Rossi. In a way I feel sorry for Rossi as he has
possibly found the answer to clean cheap energy but his
personality may prevent him from actually being the first to
market it commercially. Rossi is his own worse enemy. It may be as Jed said
that he could be doing this deliberately to keep people off
his back and to keep competitors from homing in.
On 24/01/12 12:18, Vorl Bek wrote:
Wolf Fischer wrote:
there have been two different news lately:
The first one being that Ampenergo seemingly has gone "inactive"
(although I don't know what this exactly means, if this is even
the company which is related to Leonardo, how this would affect
Rossi, etc.):
http://ecatnews.com/?p=1897
Second: The University of Bologna has seemingly terminated the
contract with Rossi, as Krivit has posted:
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2012/01/24/university-of-bologna-terminates-relationship-with-rossi/
It seems to me Rossi's best chance is to hold conference calls with
mom-and-pop investors and ask them to contribute $100 so that Rossi
can do the last bit of engineering needed to stabilize the e-cat
and allow him to run it for more than 4 hours.
In return, they will get a $500 credit on whatever e-cat model they
decide to buy, whenever the model gets made.
The way it looks now, Rossi's enterprise is tottering, but he seems
to have a number of Believers who would probably fork over the $100
or even more.
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