Just fwding this from zt. it went to my personal email but could be of interest to the Collective.
-mark http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en <http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=vi&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fvatl yvietnam.org%2Fforum%2Fshowpost.php%3F%26p%3D83599%26postcount%3D6> &sl=vi&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fvatlyvietnam.org%2Fforum%2Fshowpost.php%3F%26p%3 D83599%26postcount%3D6 Quite an extensive link but this is the best analysis i have found so far
