On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 07:01:17AM -0700, Jones Beene wrote:
> Let me answer a criticism to Ron's post. It is not homophobic. It is about
> "living a lie."

http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/914-how-to-say-it.html

Not telling others you are gay isn't living a lie, it's just nobody's damn
business but your own. 

-X
  
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> The "point" is that blind skepticism, even if it manages to expose nasty
> con-men (or poor magicians) 99% of the time, can be harmful to society in
> net results - if the 1% of time is so completely in error - that it severs
> the purpose of greed barons  (to wit: OPEC) and jealous competitors in the
> ranks of science. In fact skepticism, or eve exorbitant levels of criticism,
> can be devastating to society when it is wrong and yet well-intentioned yet
> manages to stifle game-changing technology - as almost happened from the
> shoddy efforts of Randi/Park and their ilk. 
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> Neither were qualified to jump onto LENR as "pathological science" - when
> the only thing pathological could possibly be in the lie they are living in
> their personal lives. Please do not take this the wrong way - Randi's
> homosexuality is not the issue. Nor is Park's aversion to doing real
> science. Make no mistake - these are both "entertainers" not scientists -
> and neither particularly bright. The MacArthur thing is disgusting.
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> The issue is basic honesty - and pretending to be an expert, or
> knowledgeable in something which you are not, as both have done over the
> years . and regrettably to the cheers of some, when they were able to expose
> a Dennis Lee type of con-man. Cheers. But this kind of minor success lets
> the "entertainer" think he has real insight and he becomes emboldened and
> lazy, so that it becomes a reflex reactions - and essentially becomes blind
> - no longer merely an entertainment shtick. 
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> The results can set progress back decades- and this has almost happened
> since 1989 in LENR. 
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> The most ironic thing is that a person who could be a con-man himself,
> Andrea Rossi, has managed to revive a dying field. I think that the field is
> past the tipping point now, and yes - we will outlive the Rossi affair in
> short term. 
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> From: Ron Kita 
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> Greetings Vortex-L:
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> It was "nice" to see that the McArthur Foundation had sooooo much money that
> they
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> could bestow   James Randi a Fellowship. Nothing worse than wasting money on
> good scientific research !!!
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> Randi a good magician ...kept his gay-ness hidden  until recently- 2010..is
> this "Great Magic"...hmmmmmm?
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> I wonder about Robert Park..hmmmmmmm..? Could Randi..make
> Park...disappear???
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Randi 
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> Ron Kita, Chiralex
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