I'm old, so I'm old school. I'm not a physicist, just an experienced observer with a basic science education.
After a few months of intensive reading, I'm squarely in the "transmutation don't get no respect" camp. I particularly like this one: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Castellanonucleartra.pdf No "particle acceleration". No electrolysis. In fact, no use of electricity in the experimental setup. No disputable calorimetry - in fact no claims of excess heat. The description of the experimental setup clearly implies reasonable skill in materials handling and laboratory technique. Result: a wide range of heavy-element transmutations. Wtf!? And not just these guys. Also here: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTanomalousia.pdf and here: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MileyGHnucleartra.pdf and here: http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2012/ICCF17/ICCF-17-Dash-Effect%20of%20Recrystallization-Paper.pdf These results seem objective, widely replicated, and afaik inexplicable via existing condensed-matter physics. Yet they get very little attention. I'm new in this group, so help me out. The way I learned it, there ain't no philosopher's stone, leaving aside well-understood high-energy fusion and fission reaction processes. What am I missing? Jeff On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 8:30 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: > To me 250 electron volts of energy in the form of electron projectiles is > incredibly small. The neutron generators that can be had all operate with > something like 100 keV which is fairly close to 1000 times larger, and > they use deuterons as the projectiles. Why would we think that electrons > impacting atoms would generate mutations when there is not enough energy to > produce energetic X-rays? If we assume that the elevated temperature of > the plate material is responsible, then perhaps so, but the battle to prove > that LENR exists in the first place has been difficult. It just seems > likely that anyone who has witnessed the transmutation of elements within a > low power tube would accept LENR without much question. > > I would like to see proof that the tube transmutation effect is real and > an explanation for its occurrence. Again, how could low energy electrons > cause this to happen? If one calculates the expected transmutation rate at > the energies we are speaking of I bet it would be too small to measure. > Then again, I guess that we see significance evidence that standard physics > is not working in the case of LENR devices. Another clue was overlooked > and I bet there are many more. > > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <a...@lomaxdesign.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>; vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Sat, Sep 15, 2012 8:38 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article > > At 06:41 PM 9/15/2012, David Roberson wrote: > >I would be surprised if no one has done extensive research into > >these transmutations. By now, they must have some idea as to how > >this happens or they lack curiosity. If this has been swept under > >the table over the years it makes one wonder how many other > >important discoveries are hidden. > > I couldn't find any reference in a quick search to accumulated > transmutations in a triode. However, it's not surprising if there are > such. Nuclear fusion takes place at fairly low energies, merely with > a very low rate. If there are years to accumulate the product, one > might find all kinds of things. > > Yes, it could be interesting, but "how this happens" wouldn't be a > big deal, necessarily. Nothing here to "sweep under the table," > unless the rate of transmutation is substantially different from what > would be expected from theory. > > Anyone got a reference to an actual report of transmuted elements > from vacuum tubes? > > >
