See http://spaceweather.com/ ... it's bogus.
[mg] On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 6:31 PM, <pagnu...@htdconnect.com> wrote: > David, > > You probably did not listen to the video > - the scenarios they discuss are not as upbeat as yours. > There are a number of additional videos/articles on the subject. > Quite a few experts paint a much grimmer picture of what happens after > an extreme event - no power, no transportation, no communication, no food, > no replacement generators, total civil disorder, .... > Safety systems at nuclear plants would only run for a month or so - then, > as discussed in the meeting we "would have Fukushimas all over the > country." > > > David Roberson wrote: > > I would hope that a backup system would kick in if the grid went down. > > Battery operation kept the Fukushima reactors safe for a few hours and > had > > the diesels been functional, there might not have been such a mess. > > > > > > There are varying levels and types of EMP to worry about. EMP from a > > nuclear weapon most likely would behave quite differently from that > > sourced by a solar flare. The EMP fields from nuclear weapons are > > instantaneously generated with the associated extremely rapid waveforms. > > Is there any reason to suspect that those originating from a solar > > eruption would be similar? My guess is that a large, long term, but > > slowly changing field would be easy to defend against. All of the > > problems would appear almost DC related instead of high energy microwave > > like. For instance radios would not even be dangerously damaged with > > solar related issues. > > > > > > Transformer overloads would be likely, and so would transmission lines, > > and other long distance metallic paths. This would be bad, no doubt, but > > not likely to blow up the diesel systems and their controls. The battery > > backups should survive without serious harm either. > > > > > > So, we could expect serious problems with power transmission that lasts > > until the components are repaired, but I doubt a nuclear catastrophe. > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> > > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > > Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 7:03 pm > > Subject: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth > > > > > > They ought to be working on it now. In 1859 many/most had access to > farms > > for food and did not rely on electricity/electronics for almost > > everything. Today we have millions of people racked and stacked in > cities > > totally reliant on a power infrastructure that could be knocked out for a > > year or more. A large flare is going to happen. Fukushima was a good > > example of how woefully unprepared a power company is if there is a loss > > of grid power and diesel backup. I wonder if those diesel gensets have > > electronic ignitions that will still function? I used to work for > > Honeywell, what if the control system gets fried? I still remember those > > helicopters dumping loads of water on top of the reactors, how effective > > was that? > > > > On Thursday, August 1, 2013, wrote: > > > > Dave, > > > > I don't think ChemE is being gloomy. > > Starting at 0:48:42 in the video, someone remarks - > > "... A general EMP would have Fukushimas all over the country." > > > > One recent paper in arxiv indicated that the probability of such an > > event in a human lifetime is not that small. > > > > The video shows that the elites are abandoning "normality bias". > > As they stated, for less than $2B, the grid could be hardened. > > That's money well spent. > > > > -- Lou Pagnucco > > > > Dave Roberson wrote: > >> No need to be so gloomy ChemE. We have survived thus far. > >> > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> > >> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > >> Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 4:36 pm > >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth > >> > >> > >> There will come a day. It probably won't be the EMP directly that gets > >> us. It will be untold numbers of fission reactors that cannot get their > >> backup batteries and diesel generators to run, or enough diesel fuel, > >> which will lead to multiple meltdowns and will be the end to life as we > >> know it. > >> [...] > > > > > > > > > > > > >
