Jones--Bob Cook here--
I know the Zeeman effect and studied it way back when. The Stark effect I
am not familiar with, however it sounds like it splits an energy state of
the quantum system to introduce different resonance frequencies as
influenced by the local electric field. It may also affect the spin quantum
states. I do not understand the coupling between an electric field and the
spin state of a QM system. It may occur through the electric quadrapole
moment of the system in question. My experience inflated to its max amounts
to less than .01 atmosphere.
If you recall at the beginning of this line of questions on the spin issue,
my first input was aimed at getting somebody identified that knows the
coupling mechanisms well. Its been a long time--50 years-- since I have
quantitatively addressed the subject.
I need to get a good text book and do some study. The one I mentioned by
Roy in a previous comment may be useful.
I would not dismiss anyone like Mills. He is smart and has been working in
the field for a long time. Jones is in the same category. I think the
Italian group at Bologna may have been the real leaders in theory, with
Focardi being the best. It took Rossi to make it practical from an
engineering standpoint.
My experience has primarily been in the fission reactor arena with waste
management as a add-on late in life. However, what you say about the devil
is in the details is absolutely correct from this experience. There may be
several devils in the LENR process. I think Rossi has them collared though.
In the Jones experiment I would definitely look at the effect of electric
dipole oscillating fields as well as electric quadrapole oscillating
fields. The orientation of these fields with respect to the external
magnetic field should be checked as to effect. A look at the magnetic
moments of the nuclei in the system and any known magnetic or electric
resonances would be prime input frequencies to check for effects on energy
output as was seen in the Jones experiment. (Rossi must have good data in
this regard for the Ni system.)
The Mossbauer effect may relate to coupling of lattice vibrations and
nuclear high spin state decay--energy fractionation in the lingo of
Hagelstein. If that were the case, stimulation of the lattice may allow
high (excited) spin states to exist since fractionation would be more
probable.
Can you explain your idea of an "inverse Mossbauer effect" for Ni-61 a
little better.
Keep in mind that these QM systems try to decay to the lowest energy state
possible considering conservation laws of energy and angular
momentum--spin--etc. Given the big energy sink of the He-4 particle, I
would not be surprised to find it in the Ni system as a product. It would
be interesting to know the pressure increase or decrease in the Rossi
reactor with time which would shed light on hydrogen depletion and helium
production, if any. Without helium production the reactor pressure should
go to 0 as the hydrogen is used. Would not that be nice.
Bob
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From: Bob Cook
I first did NMR experiments in my senior year, 1961, at Ed's alma
mater...
With that kind of NMR experience, Bob, perhaps you can help me out with
this. We could be on the door steps of locating a missing piece of the
puzzle connecting LENR to NMR.
The devil is in the details. I've stumbled upon what could be an important
reference to the "Stark shift" in hydrogen at 429 kHz. That is unlikely to
be a coincidence with the SJ presentation.
The Stark effect is the electric analogue of the Zeeman effect where a
spectral line is split into several components due to the presence of a
magnetic field. It is mentioned in Randell Mills work, and it has Rydberg
values written all over it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stark_effect
Of course, many in LENR look at Mills' work as little more than a
predecessor state or transitory condition which leads to LENR, and one
which
is perhaps not even exothermic on its own. It therefore must progress to
something nuclear to achieve thermal gain. That lack of full understanding
is why BLP has been unable to show anything more interesting than
spot-welder "firecrackers" in 2014.
But this finding of Steven Jones - of an RF signature at ~430 kHz
coincident
with a large energy spike in LENR could be a smoking gun which opens up
the
entire field to a higher level of understanding.
The obvious next step - when one knows the signature for gain (assuming
this
is it) - is to apply input power at that frequency (or maybe a quarter wl)
and look for positive feedback.
After all the surname of NMR is resonance. Heck, we could be looking an
"inverse Mossbauer effect" in 61 Ni.
