Jones-- I do not think you give Ross AND Focardi enough credit for doing good research. They just did not talk about it. Rossi's reaction did not just happen by luck in my estimation. Nevertheless, I agree that the Mizuno work seems to look at dynamic parameters in attempting to understand the reactions that are occurring. The details of the method they used to determine the mass of the circulating gas species would be nice to know in detail--did it in fact entail the addition of magnetic fields. And if the reactor is not sealed, how did they account for the mass balance (and mass ratios) of gases coming out (and going in) if there was an addition with time. Rossi may not have done dynamic monitoring of his reaction products, but I believe he destructively examined the hundreds of runs he claims to have made in perfecting his reactor with good up-to-date technology that Focardi was familiar with and apparently had access to.
Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:54 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:More on the Mizuno presentation From: Bob Cook I would have said that Storms process would have seen an increase in atomic 4 mass in the form of 4He. NRL indicated that there was a production of He in their Pd experiments consistent with Storms proposed process. Storms has long said on this blog that his theory was reflects the data. I would say the Mizuno tests, if the conclusion on the decrease of atomic mass 4 is correct, contradicts Storms theory. IMHO, this experiment does not contradict - so much as it adds another route to gain. Storm's theory is applicable to some experiments more than others, but this one is not one of them, since amu of the reactant gas is going down instead of up. In fact, in earlier work, Mizuno says that he believes that deuterium fuses to helium, but that cannot be the case here, since they is not increase in amu=4 and in fact it is going the other way. This only reinforces the notion that LENR is a mélange of many energetic reactions, some of which are more favored than others but the same experiment can have several routes operating at once. Because this experiment is so well done - and so impressive in its thoroughness, it looks to be the best thing to happen in the LENR field for many years (including Rossi, which was grossly deficient and substandard in the details. although curiously, this work validates AR, in ways that his own work cannot)