Randy, Let me clear. I think that there was thermal gain here. I have said all along that there is gain but it could be less than claimed, because many things do not add up, and the extent of gain is not proved by the thermography… yet.
And a level of real gain does not mean that the calibration should not have be done. There is no excuse for not doing it. Maybe the gain would have been as claimed, with calibration – who knows? The one and only thing which I am sure about is that the Lithium-6 should not be there. This puts me in a bit of a logical bind, since if there is to be thermal gain when this is done correctly - then, and as Alain says, does not the gain itself explain the presence of the isotope? No! No! No! Even if the thermal gain is proved, I am fully convinced that the Li6 was added – and is not a product of transmutation. Same with the Ni62. There can be no doubt of this unless most of nuclear physics goes down the drain as well. However – and this is the CAVEAT - it is true that these two expensive and nearly pure isotopes could have been added by Rossi at the start and not at the end – which would mean that (Li6 & Ni62) is indeed his “Secret sauce” and he wanted to make it appear as only a transmutation product. Either way they were added – not created. That still falls under the category of deceit, since it means that he submitted a “raw fuel” sample to test which he knew did not contain the Li6 nor the Ni62. I hope that is crystal clear because it is a fine-line as to where the deceit came into play. Even if we can accept most or all of the heat as valid, then there has been deceit in the way the isotope analysis was handled. However, Rossi’s many fans will say that he can be forgiven for that since he was only trying to protect his secret. Which would essentially mean that the secret is to start out with Ni62 and Li6, making this a very expensive 1.5 MWhr of energy. Since that essentially makes the device of little use to solve the energy crisis, then the deceit is only there to enrich Andrea Rossi. _____________________________________________ From: Randy Wuller I understand that concept. But just a quick glance at the data seems to question your conclusion. Why didn’t the 30w input decrease between File1 and File 5 cause a much bigger decrease in temperature being estimated by the TI camera if your assumption is correct? I would have expected a much bigger difference if you were correct. Ransom _____________________________________________ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 11:37 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Determining the transmittance . . . of semitransparent materials at elevated temperatures Randy, No scientist would calibrate for 500 if they knew that the reaction is going to 1400. And they should have known in advance, based on the previous results. The reason for this, which you may not be aware of, is that changes in temperature at the high end get multiplied by an equation called the Stefan-Boltzmann Law. Please look at the curve shown on this site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan%E2%80%93Boltzmann_law You can see in this curve - that small changes exponentially increase into huge changes in the power estimate. The technique they are using does not really measure temperature, it measure photon emission and plugs that into a formula. However, had they used a platinum thermocouple or a pyrometer, there would be no problem. They knew this from the previous criticism but ignored it (or else the idea was vetoes by AR). The result is that calibration to 500 only means what it says, the active reactor temperature can be trusted up to this level. Near 1000 however, a small error is multiplied into a huge error. _____________________________________________ From: Randy Wuller Jones: In fairness to this process it also says of the dummy reactor test that “Rossi gradually brought it to the power level THEY requested” (emphasis added). It doesn’t say that the test power level was determined or demanded by Rossi. The fact he turned it off after they had what they wanted is not the same as saying they didn’t test at a higher level “ON ORDERS FROM ROSSI”. I am not saying the test was adequate or inadequate, I am not qualified. But some of what is happening here is not objective and may be driven by other motives, i.e the same as the nonsense you usually see from Krivit. Ransom _____________________________________________ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 10:42 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Determining the transmittance . . . of semitransparent materials at elevated temperatures You seem to be saying that it is not found in the “revised” or edited version? There is an edited version of the report, in which details like this are removed. Rothwell, no doubt, would chose to only read the edited version. From: Blaze Spinnaker Care to share where you saw this? The dummy reactor was switched on at 12:20 PM of 24 February 2014 by Andrea Rossi who gradually brought it to the power level requested by us. Rossi later intervened to switch off the dummy, and in the following subsequent operations on the E-Cat: charge insertion, reactor startup, reactor shutdown and powder charge extraction. Throughout the test, no further intervention or interference on his part occurred; moreover, all phases of the test were monitored directly by the collaboration They did not calibrate above 450 C and this was not done ON ORDERS FROM ROSSI JR: It does not say that anywhere.
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