Robert, I think a lot of your observations are spot on.  I would like to
continue discussion of the likely construction of the latest IH hotCat.
You are likely correct that the corrosion of liquid and vapor phase lithium
would be terrible for use of a metal reactor vessel.  That is probably why
they switched to alumina.

Alumina is a wonderful ceramic from a thermal, mechanical, and electrical
properties standpoint.  Its only drawback is that it has to be fired at a
very high temperature to form it, but Coors has been doing it for decades.
It is high thermal conductivity, very low electrical conductivity (a good
dielectric), and extremely chemically stable.  It is mechanically tough,
even in thin wafers (it has been used as a substrate for hybrid electronic
circuits also for decades).

One thing that strikes me is that heater wires at this temperature have 2
related constraints:  a) they must be sealed away from oxygen, and b) there
must be a good way to remove the heat from the wire to prevent hot spots
from run-away temperature rise.  Regarding a) - long before these wires
melt, they will oxidize and burn up in oxygen.  Usually this means that the
wires must be sealed inside a ceramic oxide to prevent exposing the hot
metal heater wire to free oxygen.  For b), it is necessary to spread the
heat from the wire.  This is usually done by bonding the wire to another
ceramic body, usually with a refractory cement.

Now lets consider the issue of using a refractory cement to bond the heater
wire to the inside of a ceramic tube.  You would need to have the coils
pre-formed and slipped inside such a tube and then paint them inside with
the refractory ceramic.  This would be very painful.  Instead, I imagine a
central alumina tube with the heater wires wrapped on its outside.  This
could then be painted with a refractory cement to seal out the oxygen and
help thermally spread the wire's heat over the ceramic tube.

Normally such refractory cements have an organic binder that dries in air
at room temperature.  They also contain both low temperature glass and
ceramic fibers.  As the cement is heated, it would first drive off any
organic.  Then the glass melts and further binds the joint.  Then as
temperature gets hotter the glass wicks into the ceramic fiber and a
glass-ceramic hybrid is formed.  The joint can be air tight at basically
all temperatures until the ceramic itself melts.

Also, because we are talking about 3-phase coils, there will be cross-overs
of the wire that must be brought out to the ends of the reactor.  These
will have to be very carefully managed so as not to short.  This is another
practical reason why I believe the coils must be created wound on the
outside of an alumina tube; that tube being coaxially internal to the
alumina tube that is visible on the outside.  Probably after a first
heating of the coil (either self-heating or having been placed in a curing
furnace), the inner alumina tube with the wrapped coils could be coated
with a similar refractory cement and slipped (glued) inside the outer
tube.  Imperfect cement contact between the inner and outer alumina tubes
could cause the appearance of uneven heating on the outside tube.

Another point has to do with how the heat is conveyed from a LENR
reaction.  Since the LENR reaction is likely a nano-scale event, heat must
be conveyed from the reaction in a way that doesn't make the NAE the
hottest spot.  Otherwise, none of the reported melt-downs would be possible
- the NAE would evaporate itself before it could create enough heat to melt
the macro apparatus.  This implies that the heat is conveyed from the NAE
by photons - not such high energy that they readily escape the reactor, but
high enough that it can penetrate through a mm or so of the surrounding
materials (which could be LENR powder), depositing heat as the photons are
attenuated in penetration.  The important take-away is that the NAE cannot
be the hottest spot - it must heat its surroundings more than itself.
Given this, it is possible that the heat from the LENR is being absorbed in
the alumina in a distributed way, causing the LENR powder to be largely the
same temperature as the surrounding ceramic.  I don't believe it is
necessary or probable that the core must be much higher temperature than
the shell.

Can we refocus this thread into discussion about the construction of the
latest reactor?  For example:

   - Why do we think the end caps are so big?  Are they part of a lower
   temperature insulated mounting system?
   - Why do we think the 3-phase drive is used?
   - What else?

Bob Higgins

On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Robert Lynn <robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com
> wrote:

> 1% lithium in 1g fuel, so 0.01g, boils at 1342°C. At 1 bar,1342°C would
> fill about 180mL volume, reactor volume probably about 30-50mL so will be
> filled with lithium gas under pressure - operating as a heat-pipe to
> equalise pressure.
>
> I have just realised that we can probably infer the existence of an inner
> reactor vessel because we see helical wires or wire shadows of only one
> angle - we can't see both sides of wire helix through an open core because
> there is an inner  core vessel in the way.  I had thought there was no such
> vessel, so my conclusion about the wires being hotter no longer stands up.
> The wire temperatures are electrically controlled to alter the amount of
> radiative heat flux that leaves the inner vessel - a crude method of
> controlling heat flux that suggests great improvements in COP if better
> methods of heat flux control are employed (high temp coolant fluid or
> moveable insulating shields).
>
> That inner vessel must be crazy hot!  around 300°C higher than the already
> hot outer wall in order to radiate the heat to the outer wall and hot
> wires; eg if Ø20mm outer wall is at 1200°C (approx max given revised COP of
> around 2 from temp reading that is obviously in error due to non-melting of
> inconel, though could be significantly lower)  then an inner alumina tube
> of Ø12mm outer diameter radiating 1kW  would need to be more than 1500°C
> surface temperature (Actually higher given hot wires surrounding it), so
> again it seems temperature within vessel must be up to range where nickel
> is melted and lithium is gas at 5-10bar.
>
> I wonder if that smaller hotter inner tube and translucence of outer
> alumina tube is what is screwing up the thermographic calorimetry?  If the
> camera is picking up the inner tube at 300°C temp higher than the outer
> then the exterior tube temp might only be 1100°C and the COP could be a lot
> lower
>
>

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