woh well said. now he accuse Ugg of having beaten his wife and hidden his pile of dry wood from the locals... which prove fire does not exist...
note that Pomp state that denying hand-fire and ugg is not the same... but ugg making fire with hand is extraordinary... because hand-fire is forbidden by gods. but he says only on ugg... the trick to make those guys stop denying is 1- do you agree lenr is real - NO-> it is proven by scientific method, replication, publications, improvement.... you are a an anti-science , bye. - YES : ok so what is extraordinary in Rossi's work ? you have non extraordinary evidence, but even if there is clear imperfection in all test, some point need extraordinary artifact to explain the result... since LENR is not extraordinary, this is a better explanation... 2-do you think it is a fraud or since measurement : - FRAUD ? but why did he let 2 times (1=0 Peter, you are right) scientists alone with his reactor, free to bring thermocouple, DC volmeter, HF meters, RMS clamps, wattmeters, air calorimeter... IR cam... free to touch, to view with IR cam, wires and box... no magician is crazy enough to let a trick uncontrolled in the hand of witness... you are a conspiracy theorist ... bye - NO FRAUD : ok, more or less honest or deluded... 3-do you think it is an artifact or not ? an error by the testers ? - YES artifact! but why would rossi give something that don't work, checked by his team and his boss, to people who can by mistake make a good measurement, and two times ? it is a conspiracy of stupidity, of incompetence and bad luck... you are a conspiracy theorist ... - NO ... so it works, more or less... WELCOME we have to be cautious as not all measurement are perfect and some detail on stability may be missing and annoying... it may even fail sometime, or be unusable... but it is real and may be improved. 2014-10-16 19:53 GMT+02:00 Ian Walker <walker...@gmail.com>: > Hi all > > If you refuse to look through the telescope then you have failed the > Galileo test; you have stopped being a scientist and practising a religion. > > A little classical style play from 20,000 years ago. > Prometheus (An inventor and log bridge builder) "I have invented fire!" > Stephan Pomp, (A priest of the God Pathoskepsis) "Don't speak rubbish! > Fire can only come from lightning or volcanoes. The Gods theory clearly > states fire only comes from the Gods in Volcanoes and lightning" > > Prometheus "I have, I just rub these sticks together see smoke!" > Stephan Pomp "You’re trying to scam people by selling those sticks" > Prometheus "I am not selling any one sticks you pick sticks up off the > ground they fall off trees" > Stephan Pomp "I have just broke some branches off a tree I am getting no > smoke, your trying to scam us there is a hidden pipe to a volcano that > produces your smoke." > > Prometheus “What pipe where?" > Stephan Pomp "That is what your scam is, you just hid the pipe probably > underground or out of that bear skin you wear. The Gods theory clearly > states fire only comes from the Gods in Volcanoes and lightning" > > Prometheus "Ok I will give my sticks to Ugg the great hunter, he can show > it is working" > Stephan Pomp "The Gods theory clearly states fire only comes from the Gods > in Volcanoes and lightning" > > Ugg "Look I am getting smoke too!" > Stephan Pomp "Ugg got fooled by Prometheus, who also made clay pots and > the pots broke and the chief’s wife got upset and the Chief tied Prometheus > to the tree so the birds could peck him, the sticks had hidden smoke in > them through a tube Prometheus connected to the ground when he was showing > Ugg the magic way to rub the sticks together. The Gods theory clearly > states fire only comes from the Gods in Volcanoes and lightning" > > Prometheus "The Chief did not tie me to the tree; he threatened to because > I did not pay him half my hunt, the pots did break, but everyone uses pots > now, just loads of other people make them and this has got nothing to do > with fire out of sticks." > Stephan Pomp "You cannot get fire from sticks I tried, it is unrepeatable > and The Gods theory clearly states fire only comes from the Gods in > Volcanoes and lightning" > > Prometheus "You tried with green wood from green trees, try it with dry > wood off the ground" > Stephan Pomp "Now you tell us there is some special wood I told everyone > this is a scam, see now he wants you to buy his special wood. You cannot > get fire from sticks I tried, it is unrepeatable and The Gods theory > clearly states fire only comes from the Gods in Volcanoes and lightning" > > Prometheus "I have invented fire! I am not just getting smoke any more I > am getting embers! Ugg has repeated it!" > Stephan Pomp "Ugg did not repeat it! Prometheus fooled him with a hidden > pipe to a volcano and embers he had hidden in his bear skin! You cannot get > fire from sticks I tried, it is unrepeatable and The Gods theory clearly > states fire only comes from the Gods in Volcanoes and lightning" > Ugg "Prometheus did not fool me. I got the smoke and embers all by myself > after he showed me how to do it. > > Stephan Pomp "Ugg did not repeat it! Ugg is getting old and is clearly > senile, and any way he is friend of Prometheus so he must be in on the scam > too. Prometheus and Ugg fooled us with a hidden pipe to a volcano and > embers he had hidden in his bear skin! You cannot get fire from sticks I > tried, it is unrepeatable and The Gods theory clearly states fire only > comes from the Gods in Volcanoes and lightning" > > Ugg "I got Winga the farmer who invented grain and Grick the flint napper > to all test rubbing sticks together, we tested it at Pinga the well diggers > house so there is no possibility of smoke pipes, we all got smoke and > embers from the sticks Prometheus gave us" > > Stephan Pomp "Ugg, Winga, Pinga and Grick did not repeat it! They are all > getting old and clearly senile. Prometheus fooled them Prometheus touched > the sticks, so it is not independent he must have put embers in the sticks! > Ugg was probably in on it. You cannot get fire from sticks I tried, it is > unrepeatable and The Gods theory clearly states fire only comes from the > Gods in Volcanoes and lightning. Prometheus is a well-known scam artist who > also made clay pots and the pots broke and the chief’s wife got upset and > the Chief tied Prometheus to the tree so the birds could peck him" > > Ugg, Winga, Pinga and Grick "Even if he could hide the embers in the > sticks where did the smoke come from?" > > Stephan Pomp "Ugg, Winga, Pinga and Grick did not repeat it! The smoke > cannot be measured by sniffing it and seeing it. It has to be captured in a > great special pig skin that you pipe through water, like I do for the great > smoke festival. Ugg, Winga, Pinga and Grick are all getting old and clearly > senile. Prometheus fooled them with Ugg’s help and embers he had hidden in > the sticks! You cannot get fire from sticks I tried, it is unrepeatable and > The Gods theory clearly states fire only comes from the Gods in Volcanoes > and lightning. Prometheus is a well-known scam artist who also made clay > pots and the pots broke and the chiefs wife got upset and the Chief tied > Prometheus to the tree so the birds could peck him" > > Prometheus "I am getting flames from the sticks and the chief has one > outside his cave, he is trying it out to see if it will keep off bears and > sabre tooth’s at night" > > Stephan Pomp "Prometheus fooled the chief with embers he had hidden in the > sticks! The flames are just another trick like the trick with embers. You > cannot get fire from sticks I tried, it is unrepeatable and The Gods theory > clearly states fire only comes from the Gods in Volcanoes and lightning. > Prometheus is a well-known scam artist who also made clay pots and the pots > broke and the chief’s wife got upset and the Chief tied Prometheus to the > tree so the birds could peck him" > > Chief "I collected the sticks myself and rubbed them together just like > Prometheus described, it works, my wife dropped some meat on it and it > actually tastes better, my wife KooK said she has invented the idea and is > going to name it after herself. I am going to start selling the right > sticks to people who do not collect them themselves" > > Stephan Pomp "See it is all a scam the Chief is in on it with Prometheus > and Ugg. Ugg, Winga, Pinga and Grick did not repeat it! The Chief, Ugg, > Winga, Pinga and Grick are all getting old and clearly senile. Prometheus > fooled them with embers and fake fire he had hidden in the sticks! You > cannot get fire from sticks I tried, it is unrepeatable and The Gods theory > clearly states fire only comes from the Gods in Volcanoes and lightning. > Prometheus is a well-known scam artist who also made clay pots and the pots > broke and the chief’s wife got upset and the Chief tied Prometheus to the > tree so the birds could peck him" > > Next day Prometheus was found with his head bashed in gutted with a flint > knife tied to a tree, with the crows picking at his flesh. > > Stephan Pomp said “The gods did it.” > > A theory explaining fire was not constructed for tens of thousands of > years, we still used it and accepted you could get fire from rubbing sticks > together, a theory of fire was never needed in all that time we used fire. > It was not until 1774 that the French chemist A. L. Lavoisier performed > experiments that we had a theory of combustion that described fire. > > The discovery of an LENR does not need a theory. Theory comes afterwards > once you have done the experiments as A. L. Lavoisier did. It is noticeable > that Stephan Pomp has not performed a single experiment in LENR not so much > as rubbing together of green sticks from a tree; yet somehow he feels he > has the credentials to castigate those who do perform experiments. > > Stephan Pomp and his three co-conspirators fail the Galileo test and are > engaged not in physics but in religion when they says scientists should not > investigate LENR and that Elforsk is not being sceptical enough in that is > experimenting with LENR. > > Stephan Pomp and his three co-conspirators are not being sceptical for > they have not performed a single experiment in LENR on which the title of > sceptic could be hung. > > Kind Regards walker > >
