From: David Roberson 

*       Are you not amazed that a patent is issued for a device of this type 
and not for one that claims cold fusion as the source of energy? 

Not really – this is the dividing line between mainstream and fringe – and it 
is a narrow line.

I’m assuming you are talking about the Haisch/Moddel device, which is an issued 
patent; but which could relate to the Rossi HT which is only an application, 
not granted. Rossi was wise to drop the nuclear claims.

*       What are the chances that the inventors actually brought one of these 
systems to the patent office to prove that it works?

None but they built a prototype. These are extremely well credentialed 
inventors. 

Plus the Casimir force is real. There is no need for anything else to establish 
credibility, and IIRC when this patent was part of CoolEssence – they built a 
prototype which performed poorly!  So the patent was granted, even though the 
device did not perform well. Roarty may know the details of the prototype.

> It is very sad that our field is treated as the unwanted kid while everyone 
> else gets a free ride

But realize – this is because there is no good proof of a nuclear reaction in 
the estimation of USPTO yet the Casimir force is proved. 

If it turns out the Rossi HT device is based on the Dynamical Casimir Effect 
(DCE) – which very well could be the case, who knows? … then USPTO was correct 
in rejecting anything to do with nuclear reactions, since there is no 
convincing evidence.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jones Beene 
You say potato, I say potato… 
 
But the main implications which stands out on first read – if we try to 
interpret what is being claimed in this disclosure relative to what we already 
know…
1)            Non-nuclear
2)            Requires substantial electrical input and elevate temperature
3)            Requires ceramic containment
4)            If hydrogen is the active “agent” for gain,  in the sense of Ni-H 
- then the hydrogen must be embedded in the nickel as a strongly bound hydride 
instead of as a more weakly bound absorbate , in such a way that hydrogen is 
not released at extreme temperature (as it usually is).
5)            Otherwise, and this is more likely: the ceramic matrix would 
retain the diffuse hydrogen after thermal release from the nickel; and if it is 
porous, as sintered ceramic usually is (6-8% porosity is common), then this 
points to a Casimir modality…
 
If I were the folks at Jovion, I would be feeling pretty good about this turn 
of events, having a granted patent- United States 7,379,286    Quantum vacuum 
energy extraction
 
Inventors: Haisch, Bernard (Redwood City, CA); Moddel, Garret (Boulder, CO)
Assignee: Jovion Corporation (Menlo Park, CA)
 
Abstract
A system is disclosed for converting energy from the electromagnetic quantum 
vacuum available at any point in the universe to usable energy in the form of 
heat, electricity, mechanical energy or other forms of power. By suppressing 
electromagnetic quantum vacuum energy at appropriate frequencies a change may 
be effected in the electron energy levels which will result in the emission or 
release of energy. Mode suppression of electromagnetic quantum vacuum radiation 
is known to take place in Casimir cavities. A Casimir cavity refers to any 
region in which electromagnetic modes are suppressed or restricted. When atoms 
enter into suitable micro Casimir cavities a decrease in the orbital energies 
of electrons in atoms will thus occur. Such energy will be captured in the 
claimed devices. Upon emergence form such micro Casimir cavities the atoms will 
be re-energized by the ambient electromagnetic quantum vacuum. In this way 
energy is extracted locally and replenished globally from and by the 
electromagnetic quantum vacuum. This process may be repeated an unlimited 
number of times. This process is also consistent with the conservation of 
energy in that all usable energy does come at the expense of the energy content 
of the electromagnetic quantum vacuum. Similar effects may be produced by 
acting upon molecular bonds. Devices are described in which gas is recycled 
through a multiplicity of Casimir cavities. The disclosed devices are scalable 
in size and energy output for applications ranging from replacements for small 
batteries to power plant sized generators of electricity.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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