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Turkish PM leaves stage during debate with Peres over Gaza

 
Erdogan walks past Peres and Ban
Jan. 29, 2009
HERB KEINON and AP , THE JERUSALEM POST 
Israeli-Turkish relations took a dramatic turn for the worse in Davos Thursday 
night when Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan stormed red-faced off 
the stage at the World Economic Forum after sparring with President Shimon 
Peres over the fighting in Gaza. 

Erdogan was angry over being cut off by a panel moderator after listening to an 
impassioned monologue by Peres defending Operation Cast Lead. 

Peres's defense was prompted by harsh criticism leveled at Israel not only by 
Erdogan, but also by the two other panelists, Arab League head Amr Moussa and 
UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon. 

"You are killing people," Erdogan declared to Peres. 

However, a finger-pointing Peres told Erdogan that he would have done the same 
if rockets had been hitting Istanbul. 

"Do you understand the meaning of a situation where hundreds of rockets are 
falling a day on women and children who cannot sleep quietly, who need to sleep 
in shelters? What is the matter with you? You don't understand, and I am not 
prepared for lies." 

Peres's comments were met by hearty applause, which apparently irritated the 
Turkish prime minister. 

Erdogan asked the moderator, Washington Post columnist David Ignatius, to let 
him speak once more. 

"Only a minute," Ignatius replied. 

Speaking in Turkish, Erdogan said, "I remember two former prime ministers in 
your country who said they felt very happy when they were able to enter 
Palestine on tanks. I find it very sad that people applaud what you said. There 
have been many people killed. And I think that it is very wrong and it's not 
humanitarian." 

"We can't start the debate again. We just don't have time," Ignatius said. 

"Please let me finish," Erdogan said. 

However, Ignatius responded, "We really do need to get people to dinner." 

The Turkish premier then said, "Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank 
you very much. I don't think I will come back to Davos after this." 

The confrontation saw Peres and Erdogan raise their voices - highly unusual at 
the elite gathering of corporate and world leaders, which is usually marked by 
learned consensus-seeking and polite dialogue. 

The packed audience at the Erdogan and Peres session, which included US 
President Barack Obama's close adviser Valerie Jarrett, appeared stunned. 

Afterward, forum founder Klaus Schwab huddled with Erdogan in a corner of the 
Congress Center. 

"I have known Shimon Peres for many years and I also know Erdogan. I have never 
seen Shimon Peres so passionate as he was today. I think he felt Israel was 
being attacked by so many in the international community. He felt isolated," 
said former Norwegian prime minister Kjell Magne Bondevik. 

"I was very sad that Erdogan left. This was an expression of how difficult this 
situation is," he added. 

Moussa, the former Egyptian foreign minister, said Erdogan's actions were 
understandable. 

"Mr. Erdogan said what he wanted to say, and then he left. That's all. He was 
right," Moussa said. 

Of Israel, he said, "They don't listen." 

Erdogan brushed past reporters outside the hall. His wife appeared upset. 

"All Peres said was a lie. It was unacceptable," she said, eyes glistening. 

The unpleasant incident came at a meeting that both Israeli and Turkish 
diplomatic officials thought could help improve relations between the two 
countries - relations that have soured considerably due to Erdogan's extremely 
harsh criticism since the start of Operation Cast Lead. 

"Erdogan's actions in Davos show that he doesn't want to miss an opportunity to 
further harm Turkish-Israeli relations," sources in Jerusalem said in response 
to the incident. The sources said that Erdogan's behavior on the Davos stage 
obviously would not help Turkey's attempts to be seen in Europe as a rational 
and constructive actor on the international stage. 

"Israel's strategic relationship with Turkey is important to us, but it is no 
less important to Turkey," the official said. "Erdogan is harming his own 
interests." 

The official said that Israel was growing increasingly "tired" of Erdogan's 
tirades, and was unlikely to make any more efforts to "chase after the Turks." 

The official dismissed as no longer valid the argument that Erdogan's diatribes 
- he has called for Israel to be barred from the UN and said its actions were 
inhuman and would bring it to self-destruction - were the result of domestic 
considerations, and that he was playing to his strong Islamic base before the 
Turkish municipal elections in March. 

The incident came even as Turkish Foreign Minister Ali Babacan appeared over 
the last couple of days to be tempering Turkish rhetoric and taking a more 
conciliatory approach. On Wednesday he called on Hamas to abandon violence. 

The Foreign Ministry had no response to the incident, an apparent indication 
that it did not want to exacerbate the situation.


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