On 01/25/2013 03:44 AM, Steve Faulkner wrote:
Over on the HTML WG list [1] we have been discussing the use of the article
element to mark up comments.

I have sketched out a few alternative possibilities to the current
recommendation in the spec of using the article element as it has been
indicated by users who consume the semantics that its use is suboptimal.

I am bringing this over here as well as one of the suggestions I have [2]
made may include implementation changes



[1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Jan/thread.html#msg109
[2] http://www.html5accessibility.com/tests/comments.html


I would be concerned that recommending the use of <ul> would simply confuse matters further, and lead to messier, unnecessarily verbose markup. A clean list of comments is fine, but most comments end up tree-structured, not lists. Tree-<ul>s are quite verbose compared to simply nesting <article>s.

(It makes some sense, I suppose, to think of comments as a "list", but *unordered*? If you're going to group them at all, wouldn't the order be important? Bruce Lawson ( http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Jan/0111.html)'s observation that comments are "heavily dependent on context" would seem to support the idea that it *is* important, especially since some comments are responses to others.)

Robin Berjorn ( http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Jan/0115.html) made a suggestion to wrap comment <article> elements inside a <details> element, which seems like a good approach, both in terms of semantics and practical result.

*However*, I don't see anything wrong or confusing about nested <article>s. I think it makes perfect sense. Someone (can't find it now) wrote that the goal of AT applications is to "read the contents of the main article, without comments or other distractions" - the fact that a "comment" <article> is nested inside another automatically implies that it is *supportive*, and not an integral part of the main article itself (it can be excluded without negative impact).



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