That seems to be the case 
(http://www.cryst.ehu.es/cgi-bin/cryst/programs/nph-wp-list?gnum=140).
If both structures possess the inversion symmetry, it will be pointless to 
calculate polarization.

Oleg

> On Sep 8, 2015, at 03:48, Fecher, Gerhard <fec...@uni-mainz.de> wrote:
> 
> I thought that  I4/mcm  is also a centrosymmetric space group ?
> 
> Ciao
> Gerhard
> 
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> Von: wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at 
> [wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] im Auftrag von Oleg Rubel 
> [oru...@lakeheadu.ca]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. September 2015 01:03
> An: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
> Betreff: Re: [Wien] berryPI
> 
> The essence of electronic polarization is that it is a “relative” quantity, 
> i.e., its calculation (and measurement too) requires a reference point. The 
> reference structure is not always centrosymmetric. An example of 
> non-centrosymmetric reference structure is zinc-blende GaN that is taken as 
> P=0 in computing the spontaneous polarization of the wurtzite GaN (see 
> https://github.com/spichardo/BerryPI/wiki/Tutorial-4:-Polarization-in-GaN).
> 
> For the second part of the question on EuTiO3, enclosed structure files would 
> certainly help. One possible strategy would be to explore a gradual evolution 
> of the polarization between cubic and tetragonal structures.
> 
> 
> I hope this will help
> Oleg
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 3:42 AM, nilofar hadaeghi <n.hadae...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear all
>>     I have studied some papers whose authors are S.J.Ahmed or O.Rubel  in 
>> which building the centrosymmetric and noncentrosymmetric structure for the 
>> calculation of spontaneous polarization has been explained, but it is still 
>> ambiguous for me.
>> Could you please help me whether the noncentrosymmetric structure must exist 
>> in the nature or it is enough to apply a displacement to the central atom of 
>> the centrosymmetric structure and then use the new structure as the 
>> noncentrosymmetric one?!
>> For instance I am working on EuTiO3 in which a structural transition at 
>> temperature 282(k) from cubic to tetragonal ( from Pm3m space group to 
>> I4/mcm) occurs. Now, would you please help me whether I use the structure in 
>> I4/mcm space group as the noncentrosymmetric structure or I must change the 
>> positions of the centrosymmetric structure and use the achieved structure as 
>> the noncentrosymmetric one?
>> I am using WIEN2k 14.2, Python version: 2.7.3 and Numpy version: 1.6.2.
>> Sincerely yours,
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