Ken Arromdee wrote: > On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Charles Matthews wrote: > >>> Something that has a Rush Limbaugh episode >>> dedicated to it is probably notable in any sane sense, even if Rush Limbaugh >>> isn't a reliable source. >>> >> Sorry, what if I say that I neither know nor care about anything Rush >> Limbaugh does or says (which is true), that I'm on the other side of the >> Atlantic from almost everyone who does care, and that puts me in the >> same position as about 90% of the world's population? >> > > The same thing that happens if it's in a newspaper (which counts as a > reliable source) and you don't get the newspaper on the other side of > the ocean, and the newspapers on your side won't even print it because > nobody cares about it over where you are. > > The same thing that happens if there's some European town which gets an > article even though nobody in America cares about it and its total population > is smaller than the audience of Rush Limbaugh. > > You're just making an argument for European provincialism disguised as an > argument against American provincialism. Notability, either in Wikipedia or > in real life, doesn't require that everyone in the world care about something, > just that enough people do. "Enough people" need not include you. > > You miss my point entirely. Which is "what if I say" something entirely subjective as a judgement of notability, in reply to your subjective argument for notability. _That_ is why Wikipedia tries to have _some_ objective criteria for inclusion of topics. I made this point to you in a previous thread on notability. >> Certainly if we didn't have the exclusion of most blogs, we would have a >> system that would be fantastically easy to game: how hard is to get some >> topic mentioned in a dozen blogs? >> > > Then you need to have criteria for blogs which are stricter than "every blog" > but still looser than what we have now. > > OK, this is a more reasonable debate. If the astronomers say that a particular blog on recent astronomy has the sort of stature for announcements that would warrant its use as a reference, then its use shoudn't be ruled out entirely. But are there criteria that are workable?
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