Not to state an opinion in any direction about Wifione, but has anybody bothered to tell him that he is being discussed on these mailing lists?
Risker On 9 February 2012 05:23, CherianTinu Abraham <tinucher...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think, some are getting it all wrong. It is not about sympathies to > Nichalp or who so ever. > > The problem is not conflict of interest editing... It is not even a > philosophical debate of Paid editing Vs Volunteer editing... The problem is > getting paid to white wash "negative materials" in favor of the clients, > which eventually render Wikipedia articles biased and information > suppressed... And if those people can get favors from the level of Admins, > it is definitely wrong. What is more shocking is that if that if an account > created possibly with a single purpose ( of protecting the interests of a > business group) can manage to climb up the ladder of admin-ship of a > "stronger" Wikipedia like en.wiki , it is definitely alarming ! > > At this point of time, I am giving the benefit of doubt of whether Wifione > is actually Nichalp or not. But definitely an account like Wifione aka > "Wireless Fidelity Class One" must be investigated. > > It is not the first time, IIPM related folks tried to infiltrate Wikipedia > to get the articles in their favour. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Mrinal_Pandey > > I am sure that scores of such sock puppet users are still having a free run > with related articles. > Previous sockpuppet investigations against Wifione in 2009 returned a > "possible" result. > > Imagine having an admin also with ACC ( Account Creation) toolserver > authorization in the favour. > > What is more shocking is that one user who slapped the notice on Wifione > got this message on his talk page > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Makrandjoshi&oldid=104617335 > (which closely translates to DONT YOU GET SCARED? THESE IIPM GUYS WILL KILL > YOU) > > Now tell me, can volunteers like you and me fearlessly edit articles > related to IIPM to remove its bias, in such situations of death threats? > Least I want to go to Silichar after being sued. > > -TC > > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Pradeep Mohandas < > pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > hi, > > > > I think we mean this criticism only in the Wikipedia reference. It's > > not as if we're going to catch and hand over this guy to the Police. > > > > Such paid editing lowers the morale of other editors. Efforts must be > > made to stop such work that is detrimental to other Wikipedia > > volunteers. > > > > Then again, we're putting the cart in front of the horse. It's not > > been proved Nichalp and wifione are one and the same. It is hence best > > to discuss only about paid editing and how this practise can be > > identified and stopped. > > > > Pradeep > > Handheld > > > > On 09/02/2012, Ashwin Baindur <ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I would only like to remind people that showing some sympathy is not a > > > bad thing . > > > > > > Coming from armed forces where there are no second places - to me the > > > greatest sin is lack of competence, whether in language, wiki-writing, > > > techniques or otherwise. I was told by someone that Wikipeding was a > > > voluntary activity so high standards should not be expected in > > > competence. If that is true, then we should not suddenly start > > > witch-hunting on the basis of principle when we are ourselves so > > > casual about other qualities in other ways! > > > > > > Without mentioning specific incidents, I have come across this > > > tendency to crucify others in India community - which is deplorable. > > > > > > Before any one becomes high & mighty on morals here, one should look > > > closely at what are harmful crimes against humanity (murder, rape etc) > > > and what are social misdemeanours (wiki-crimes). So many of us condone > > > other faults all the time in Indian society; it is hypocrisy to be > > > principled in issues concerning others, when we ourselves don't apply > > > the highest standards to ourselves. > > > > > > In my opinion. it is NOT the business of this community to go > > > searching for culprits unless the culprit has affected us in some > > > manner, which does not appear to be the case. > > > > > > As Jesus Christ said, let he who is without blame cast the first stone. > > > > > > There are far better and much more important things to do here. > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > Ashwin Baindur > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:23 PM, praveenp <me.prav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> I feel no sympathy for Nichalp or any such users.... > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > > > wikimediaindi...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > > > > > > > > -- > > Pradeep Mohandas > > How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > > wikimediaindi...@lists.wikimedia.org > > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
