Problem with 900 is the lack of spectrum. Most fast equipment uses 10 to 20MHz. 
In 900 there is only a total of 26MHz. The fastest solution on the market is to 
use an XR9 card in 5 or 10MHz mode. 5MHz in a MikroTik unit can give you 
5-6Mbit effective throughput without Nstream. Canopy is second fastest but uses 
8MHz bandwith if memory serves me right. Another problem is the noise pollution 
in 900 and the best to that problem is hands down canopy. 

Don't expect anything blazing fast in 900MHz that will be affordable any time 
in the near future. 

/Eje
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Adam Goodman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:31:43 
To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information


I oversubscribe 10/1. I try to keep it down to 30-35 subs per AP
(mostly 900MHz=3mbps radios). Lets say I have only 2 streaming subs at
any given time:

2x 2mbps = 4mbps. plus other regular traffic. The demand is only going
to go up with time. Seems to me we need faster 900MHz radios if we
want to stay in busines, and if Moto wants to stay in the 900 market.



On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I deliver 100 mbps wholesale to many rural areas for $3-4K/month type of
> figure.
> That includes transport.
> And stastically, you can oversub it, even with streaming content.
> You are never going to have all 20 streaming movies all at the same time.
> I am willing to take the chance.  That is how we are building out our
> network.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
>
>
>> On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
>>
>>>I think the canopy 450 will do something like 30 down and 10 up.
>>>So that could give you 20 simultaneously which statistically could
>>>work if you had 50-100 on an AP.
>>
>> Ok, so you have 20 people on one AP pulling 2Meg each which is 40
>> meg stream.  If you have just 3 towers like that, you will have
>> 120Meg streaming.  At $50/sub, you have 60*50 = $3k/month in
>> revenue for those that are using that 120Meg.  You'd NEVER get
>> 120Meg delivered to rural America (at least not in MY area) for that
>> kind of money.  A DS3 here with 45Meg would be around $4500/month
>> after you include the transport.
>>
>> What am I missing?  Canopy isn't the answer...the question isn't
>> JUST the last mile, but the business model overall.  The problem CAN
>> be solved at the last mile, but when people are demanding streaming
>> services they will have to understand that $50 commodity service
>> isn't the answer.  I'd be happy to deliver ANYONE with a dedicated
>> service level of 2,3 even 10M, but it won't be $50/month.
>>
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