Not only should you have spares, you should also make sure you have the right 
parts before you go to the job...

even if you do have the right parts, it's still a nuisance to deal with getting 
sent the wrong stuff... it can happen with anything though - for instance, I 
once got sent a 5ghz UBNT omni instead of 2.4ghz... I'm pretty sure I would've 
been better off with the wrong pigtails ;-)

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Jim 
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If you get out to the job and don't have the right pigtail because the vendor 
didn't ship the right one, it's not the vendors fault.  You should have several 
spares of every flavor in your truck.  If not, it's a safe bet Murphy will show 
up throwing his laws around :-)


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

Which is a problem when they ship you N male to N male by mistake... =P


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On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Matt Brendle 
<mattagator.mailingli...@gmail.com<mailto:mattagator.mailingli...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
KPP if for nothing else it comes with better jumpers.  KPP has N connectors on 
antenna and jumper to match up to RP-SMA on Rocket.  YMMV
-Matt

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
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Same radios but I had the opposite experience.  I had one at -35, maybe the RF 
armor requires both of those dumb machine screws to work.


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On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Greg Osborn 
<gregwosb...@gmail.com<mailto:gregwosb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
UBNT to KPP straight up, kpp.  UBNT with armor vs KPP, we prefer UBNT
because of the extra horizontal separation required with KPP.  On a grainleg
platform, we've seen kpp sectors see one another at -30 or below, where UBNT
see one another in the -50's.  On a tower without standoffs and KPP, forget
it, you will have problems.

2.4 in 10mhz cw.

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On
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one obvious advantage with the KPP is that the connectors or all covered by
the shielding, so you eliminate any potential issues with water in the
connectors, and you can throw away that annoying cover on the Rocket over
the ethernet port.
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[wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] on behalf of
Sam [w...@csilogan.com<mailto:w...@csilogan.com>]
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Mathew, these are for 2. GHz Rockets.

I was wondering about the shielding as well. Unless you're in an area with a
ton of interference...  But as was mentioned, the KP omni with the shielding
is the same price basically as the same UBNT model without it. I'm all about
using stuff that's included at no additional charge :)


On 8/28/2014 10:00, Mathew Howard wrote:
> I haven't used any KPP omnis, but I have used several different brands of
dual polarity omnis and I haven't really seen any notable difference in
performance between any of them.
>
> Are you looking at 2.4ghz or 5ghz?
>
> Is there really a lot of benefit to shielding the radio with an omni? it
seems somewhat pointless to me...
> ________________________________________
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
> [wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] on
> behalf of Sam [w...@csilogan.com<mailto:w...@csilogan.com>]
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
> That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in
> performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible?
>
> Thanks
> Sam
>
>
>
> On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
>> I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover
>> for the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're
>> using stock Rockets with stock UBNT antennas.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]
>> On Behalf Of Sam
>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
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>> Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>>
>> I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance
>> antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their
>> experiences of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically
>> looking at 13 dBi omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector
>> antennas compare as well.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sam
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