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1 html list (no excessively long, non-accessible navigation lists at top of page) + dhtml submenus. Without Javascript, you just get the top list. Appearance controlled by CSS. Well worth a look. Chris -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kornel Lesinski Sent: 16 May 2005 17:07 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] search engine question On Mon, 16 May 2005 16:11:26 +0100, Thierry Koblentz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You have to use good, accessible menu that uses links in HTML. >> See "son of suckerfish dropdowns". > > I'm not sure if CSS menus are really "accessible". IMHO, they lack a > "timer", browser support is weak and most of them do not allow > keyboard navigation. That's the same problem most JS menus have as well. > On top of that, if not well implemented, they can be totally > inaccessible to IE users if scripts are disabled. JS-based menu will fail as well, and not only in IE, but in other browsers. Having working, styled top-level items are IMHO best way such menu can degrade. Otherwise you may get something like few pages of unordered lists or spaghetti of links, which breaks page layout and isn't more usable. > FWIW, I'd go with a "DHTML" solution that degrades nicely. But suckerfish dropdowns is DHTML solution that degrades nicely. You can get best of both worlds - extend CSS menu to have features of best JS menu. Add class to menu and make :hover work only on menu with that class. Then using JS remove that class and add mouseover/mouseout/focus handlers that implement closing delay, keyboard navigation, etc. -- regards, Kornel Lesiński ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ****************************************************** ******************************************************************************** DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is confidential and should not be used by anyone who is not the original intended recipient. If you have received this e-mail in error please inform the sender and delete it from your mailbox or any other storage mechanism. Neither Macmillan Publishers Limited nor any of its agents accept liability for any statements made which are clearly the sender's own and not expressly made on behalf of Macmillan Publishers Limited or one of its agents. Please note that neither Macmillan Publishers Limited nor any of its agents accept any responsibility for viruses that may be contained in this e-mail or its attachments and it is your responsibility to scan the e-mail and attachments (if any). No contracts may be concluded on behalf of Macmillan Publishers Limited or its agents by means of e-mail communication. Macmillan Publishers Limited Registered in England and Wales with registered number 785998 Registered Office Brunel Road, Houndmills, Basingstoke RG21 6XS ******************************************************************************** ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************