I know we live in commercial, capitalist times ;) ... however, I cannot agree that a company logo is page content (that warrants a presence in the HTML) in the true sense:
a logo is essentially 'indexical': it depends for its meaning upon some other entity (the company) and the context within which it is presented (their website). This: [some graphic] means nothing and has no semantic value This, on the other hand: <h1><a href="/index.html">My Company</a></h1> has obvious meaning! Whilst I'm not a big fan of image replacement, I do use it for header logos because it solves two problems in one: a) You get to use a fancy image in the header - which is _only_ a fancy marketing device - not content proper. b) You always have a sensible H1 for which all H2s are genuine subheadings. One last thing: using image replacement does not mean that you cannot link that image to the homepage. Using the <h1><a ... above, just set link to display:block and replace on that with text-indent:-1000em. Chris -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Bunter Sent: 10 October 2005 05:15 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Placement of company logo Sorry if this has been discussed before and it may be a little of topic of this thread but I have always wondered why h1 would be used in the header of the page for a logo. I have always thought the h1 element should be the main heading for the content eg. <h1>About Us</h1> <p>content...</p> This way the highest level heading is always unique to the section of the website you are visiting. Cheers TB -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Czeiger Sent: Monday, 10 October 2005 1:43 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** Re: [WSG] Placement of company logo I prefer the following IR: <div id="masthead"> <h1><a href="index.html" title="The Company Name Web Site">Company Name</a></h1> </div> in the stylesheet: #masthead h1 { margin: 0px; padding: 0px; } a { width: Xpx; height: Ypx; overflow: hidden; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; padding-top: Xpx; background: transparent url(images/logo.gif) no-repeat top left; } That way you don't get "clear.gif" going in your otherwise semantically nice mark up :o) R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thierry Koblentz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <wsg@webstandardsgroup.org> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 1:30 PM Subject: *****SPAM***** Re: [WSG] Placement of company logo > Richard Czeiger wrote: >> Doing it this way IS good branding. >> It's also about controlling HOW you want your logo to appear in >> certain context. Anyone that's written a Corporate Style Guide will >> know what I'm talking about... > > Good point. > This Image Replacement method [1] allows this type of control (image > source > and size) and makes the logo clickable. > > <h1><a title="Company home page" href="/"><img src="clear.gif" alt="" > /></a>Company Name</h1> > > [1] http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/tip.asp > </plug> > > Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com > > ****************************************************** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ****************************************************** > > ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ****************************************************** ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ****************************************************** ******************************************************************************** DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is confidential and should not be used by anyone who is not the original intended recipient. 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