Not looked at your CSS, but...there's really no need to get out negative margins. Have you set the bottom margin (and padding) of the h3 and the top margin (and padding) of the ul (and possibly the li elements therein)?
i just set all of the above to 0 and it worked. thanks patrick ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************
