It would be awesome if the subdomain all the spots get submitted to was redirected to some community-funded broker server, and some kind of pub-sub messaging set up for subscribers to be able to consume the data in real-time, on a par with the wsprnet.org site. Spots could still get proxied to the existing site. That would really help open the dataset up to deeper real-time analysis, which is extremely valuable data for the amateur radio community.
Tom M0LTE On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 04:42, Eric NO3M <n...@no3m.net> wrote: > Onno > > My frustration is specifically with the seeming unwillingness of the admin > team to recognize the serious system issues that have plagued the site for > the last two years (at least). If this assumption is inaccurate, then my > apologies, as it is based on the comments made by the admin that posted to > this list and taken as the position of the rest of the admin staff. > > Countless offers for help have been made by individuals, either in > expertise/time or monetary. It seems at this point a fresh perspective and > solution is warranted, as the status quo and temporary band-aides that have > been performed in recent times only alleviates the issues for a short > period of time. > > The rest of my Email just stated observational facts. At the end of the > day, I could care less if the site works or not, I still have my own spots > in the locally running WSJTx to utilize as needed. But other folks use the > mass collected data for many purposes and it's become more difficult to > interact with and acquire that data and parts of the site. > > Also, this has nothing to do with the map.... > > > 73 Eric > > > > On 10/14/19 10:39 PM, Onno Benschop wrote: > > Eric, the frustration in your email is visceral and leads me to one > question: > > When did you last pay for an SLA in relation to wsprnet? > > > -- > finger painting on glass is an inexact art - apologies for any errors in > this scra^Hibble > > ()/)/)() ..ASCII for Onno.. > > On Tue., 15 Oct. 2019, 08:37 Eric NO3M, <n...@no3m.net> wrote: > >> This kind of ignorant response is frankly infuriating and in itself shows >> why wsprnet.org is going to hell to put it kindly.... >> >> I am very active in the LF/MF community and WSPR is heavily used for >> propagation studies, realtime band opening indication, etc. Ask anyone in >> at least the US and VK LF/MF community what they think of wsprnet.org... >> >> There are definitely spots that never make their way to the database, >> numerous in fact. The poor system performance is a recurring topic in the >> LF/MF chat group. Almost nightly someone complains about slow response or >> that the database part of the site just simply will not load. You can't >> definitively say all spots are being imported into the database... from the >> site's vantage point there is no way of knowing what is missed due to the >> site being unreachable when those lost spots are coming in. >> >> The "database" part of the site is very often extremely slow to load or >> never loads at all. Eventually, without fail, on a daily basis, the page >> will fail to load when left open in a browser tab when it attempts to auto >> refresh. >> >> I understand you are not part of the technical team, but perhaps the ones >> responsible can be given the message loud and clear and not continue to >> assume all is fine. The site (specifically the database infrastructure) >> needs serious intervention. The folks that are responsible for maintaining >> the site's functional integrity have failed miserably. Time to step up or >> pass the responsibility on to a competent team. >> >> 73 Eric NO3M >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/14/19 3:45 PM, Erwin Serle via wsjt-devel wrote: >> >> Not sure why you come to these conclusions, the website is not slow, it >> is not abandoned and the spots enter the database nicely. >> >> The map issue is explained in the wsprnet org forum with the appropriate >> solution as well. >> >> Users are managed steadily albeit sometimes slowly as I am probably the >> only user admin doing any work on it at all most of the time. >> >> The other admins focus on keeping the site itself up and running and >> solving the more technical issues. >> >> >> Happy to give more insight if needed: >> >> Erwin, >> >> PE3ES/F4VTQ >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 4:59 AM Benjamin Bänziger <helios.sola...@gmx.ch> >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> This is probably not the right place for this issue, but all other >> options didn't get attention unfortunately. >> >> Over the past months and years, wsprnet got continuously slower, as more >> and more people used the service. >> Since a few months, wsprnet got unreachable for minutes multiple times a >> day. It is common that database requests time out. >> >> wsprnet does also regularly lose wspr spots, because it is overloaded. >> Since a week now, the map on wsprnet.org doesnt work anymore. >> The official wsprnet e-mail is refusing e-mails since at least one year(!) >> >> >> Over the past months, there have been countless complaints in the >> wsprnet forum. And also countless offers to help to resolve this issue, >> also offers for donations. >> Yet nobody seems to take action. >> >> >> I ask you to please find somebody who takes care of wsprnet.org. WSPR is >> the best mode I've seen in ham radio for exploring propagation. It would >> be very sad to see it go down like this. >> wsprnet is a very important part of the WSPR mode. >> >> >> Thanks. >> 73 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> wsjt-devel mailing list >> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > wsjt-devel mailing > listwsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel > > > _______________________________________________ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel >
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