> Anything short of a specific example of a real security problem 
> is nothing more than heresy.
> 
A quibble really, but I think you mean "hearsay" although I concede that
heresy could be appropriate too. :) I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist...

Cyn

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike A. Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 8:20 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [XFree86] Re: Security in new drivers
> 
> 
> On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, John Bartoszewski wrote:
> 
> >I've heard comments from various people that in some drivers for
> >new cards that there are local security problems. The example
> >that was brought up was the driver for the Radeon 7000 being
> >able to write any where in memory and therefor compromise
> >security.
> 
> Heard comments from whom?  And what specific security problems?  
> What source code files are these problems in?  Or are they just 
> what-if rumors?
> 
> Seriously, if someone has a claim that one of the drivers is 
> insecure, then they would know the exact area of the driver 
> source that such security problems exist, and one would expect 
> that they would report the problems in a responsible manner to 
> appropriate developers privately to be examined.
> 
> Anything short of a specific example of a real security problem 
> is nothing more than heresy.
> 
> 
> >Without actually reading the drivers is there any place where
> >these security problems are discussed and archived?
> 
> You assume that there are known security issues which are also 
> not fixed.  That is not the case however, but I urge anyone who 
> believes they know of such a security issue to report it 
> privately to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> >Is there a good forum to ask if a driver is secure?
> 
> If a driver wasn't secure, it would be either fixed, or likely 
> disabled and removed.
> 
> >Have there been audits on drivers directly from Nvidia, Matrox
> >or ATI?
> 
> How exactly would someone audit a binary only driver that there 
> is no publically available source code for?  I'm not sure a heck 
> of a lot could be done without the source code.  You'd have to 
> ask those vendors directly however if they've audited their own 
> source code for security issues.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mike A. Harris
> 
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