On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:09:28 -0800, mike brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Haha! And Chairman Mao would crack your nutsack with that bit of > selective propoganda. (read what followed after I wrote that sentence)... > > Al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "mike brown" <Autumn cries for spring..." is completely at odds > with > the spirit of zen >> > Holy shit, a poetry critic? Bankei would kick your ass with a bamboo bat > if > he were still around and was reading this and had bus fare to your home. > Thanks Al, I think you're catching on...there hides a bit of dilletante somewhere... and Mike probably was totally ignorant of the history of Haiku and Tanka... that in Imperial Court Japan, a noble might seek the affection or liason with a highly placed lady, and offer her via some lower ranking messenger, the wrapped Haiku as the subtle, often very cloaked suggestive message... Her reply was the Tanka couplet...and it could be some sentimental and positive "agreement" to the suggested get together, or it could be a rather wise and even cutting rebuke whereby both the Lady and the Nobleman could essentially maintain their dignity, expecially if the exchanged poetry ever got intercepted by family members or other jealous parties. As the form evolved for the sake of court expression and demonstration it became a much more abstract, purely poetic form, but always kept elements of the surprise twist, inversion of expectation or logic, the purely Japanese style of "ah-hah!" pronounced "Atari!" btw... in any event, there have never been formal absolute rules to Haiku or Tanka, aside from the traditional 5,7,5, and 7,7 meter...and even this has been cleverly and knowingly altered by very skilled masters in all centuries since the Meiji Dynasty. In any event...I am a published and award recognized poet of Haiku, not that I suggest that any of my 30 second responses here are of that depth or breadth... But to me, all other "sentiment" aside, the critique seems ignoble and misplaced, as it casts a shadow on what was intended as a peaceful and harmonious reconciliation... Ah, that Yang that cannot help but follow that Ying! I am away for a month or so...must get a new business up and running... Hopefully will catch breath and time and check in again by Spring... Peace, Zenbob > --------------------------------- > Sent from Yahoo! - a smarter inbox. > > > > __________ NOD32 2757 (20071230) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ NOD32 2757 (20071230) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
