The discussion about SLE seems to have taken over.
This was originally about zLinux.

If it actually makes sense for zLinux for JDK 11 then I have no objections to
the proposed toolchain specific patch ...

If it does not make sense for 11 then I think you should look only at 8u and prepare
a patch directly against that.

Its not "critical" for 10 which is in RDP2 already and 9 is going EOSL in less than 3 months ...

-phil.

On 1/23/18, 9:18 AM, Adam Farley8 wrote:
>On 01/23/2018 05:25 PM, Adam Farley8 wrote:
>>> SLE-11:* doesn't even have OpenJDK-8 and is also going to be out of support
>>> next year  anyway.
>>
>> Does this mean the gcc version will change? If you have hard information on
>> this, I'd appreciate the URL.
>
>I'm not sure what you mean. SLE12-SP3 ships gcc-4.8.x while SLE-15 will
>ship gcc-7, see:
>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__build.opensuse.org_package_view-5Ffile_SUSE-3ASLE-2D15-3AGA_gcc_gcc.spec-3Fexpand-3D1&d=DwIC-g&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=P5m8KWUXJf-CeVJc0hDGD9AQ2LkcXDC0PMV9ntVw5Ho&m=dIGHRmVpTLUCdNXpk5OeZoRTr4KMZfiyFp7leAxQ1x4&s=kvSfKGn4zfKUDx14bZlDZsWrY3uorXE_6lBuTmOMchw&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__build.opensuse.org_package_view-5Ffile_SUSE-3ASLE-2D15-3AGA_gcc_gcc.spec-3Fexpand-3D1&d=DwIC-g&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=P5m8KWUXJf-CeVJc0hDGD9AQ2LkcXDC0PMV9ntVw5Ho&m=dIGHRmVpTLUCdNXpk5OeZoRTr4KMZfiyFp7leAxQ1x4&s=kvSfKGn4zfKUDx14bZlDZsWrY3uorXE_6lBuTmOMchw&e=>
>
>Is that what you mean when you say the gcc version is changing?

Apologies, I was unclear. I was asking if the minimum gcc version on David's website was likely to change when SLE11 went out of service. From what you're telling me, the sles 11 bit on the site will likely be updated to sles 12, and the gcc version won't change (as you're saying SLE12 ships with 4.8.x).

>
>> If the minimum gcc version for 10 or 11 is above 4.8.5 across all platforms, >> then I agree, but I don't have that information, so I figured I'd ask to
>> cover all of the JDK versions, to be safe.
>
>I don't know what the minimum version is at the moment, to be honest. I haven't >tried building OpenJDK-10 or OpenJDK-11 on SLE-12:SP3 yet. I could do that
>if that's important.
>
>> Even if the gcc version does change, adding 4.8.5-specific code shouldn't
>> break anything.
>
>It most likely doesn't break anything. But it leaves workaround in the code
>base which we could potentially forget to clean out later when it is no
>longer needed.

Agreed. I was hedging my bets on the gcc version not changing. Be good if we had some reliable intel on the minimum gcc version that we could use to make a
decision.

>
>> What do you think?
>
>My opinion is that the codebase for OpenJDK-11 should be kept clean because >we are working on getting rid of unnecessary cruft. But this decision isn't >up to me, of course. I'm just arguing that I consider the chances that someone
>will try OpenJDK-11 on SLE-12:SP3 or even SLE-11:SP4 very low.
>
>Adrian

A reasonable opinion. I may disagree with your conclusions, but you present
your arguments well.

Could others on this email chain act as tie breaker on the jdk10+11 matter please?

Best Regards

Adam Farley

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