--- Otto Koppius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nick
Walsh wrote:
>  
> > The American dance scene IS a helluva lot better
> than
> > that in the UK. 
> 
> I don't know your experiences, but mine are rather
> different (although
> based only on many nights clubbing in London, which
> I realise may not be
> representative of the UK as a whole): the UK has a
> frequency and variety
> of quality clubnights for house and techno that is
> unmatched.  

Yeah London is good, but too many ppl think that
London is like the rest of the country. It's not. I
live in York and all of the good night spots were
closed down a few months ago due to the opening of
bigger commercial clubs. I mean, if you like STEPS and
stuff like that, yeah, the North East is cool but
otherwise the place stinks like a tramps vest:)

The only decent place to go to is Leeds but I don't a
have a car and we rarely if ever see ppl like Claude
Young or Derrick May play in our neck of the woods
anyway:( A promoter mate of mine is working on
something good for October tho if anyones
interested...

> > You'd never get a club like Motor
> > being successful in the UK. 
> 
> No offence to Motor, I've had some really great
> times there, but clubs
> like The End and Blue Note (sadly RIP) are at least
> as good as, if not
> better.
>
> Otto

Never been to The End or Blue Note. In fact, I've
never been to any clubs in London. It's just too far
away. Student life sucks... If I had some friends who
were into the scene then I spose it'd be kewl...

> PS straying slightly off-topic, but I could not let
> this pass
> unchallenged:
> 
> > Black equality has been realised, it's just a few
> > t*ssers that are behind the times. 
> 
> I hope you're sitting comfortably in your armchair,
> thinking about this
> idealised world, because reality is quite
> different...
> (do a websearch on Stephen Lawrence or Amadou Diallo
> and then see if you
> still stand by that statement)

As I've said, yeah there are racist tw*ts out there...
but I've got black relatives and I go out with 'em. I
can't go into certain bars and clubs in my hometown of
Leicester because they're black only. I've seen plenty
of black only youth clubs and asian only youth clubs
in the uk... isn't that racism? You wouldn't see a
white-only youth club in Pakistan would you? I'm not
dissing anyone because of their colour. My g/f is
chinese so... It's just the way society is over
here... I've seen black friends beaten and stabbed
too... I don't live in an idealised world... I come
from an area basically run by smack dealers. I've seen
the nastiest things and I know everyone sees stuff
like that these days... That's why I said... Lets not
talk about black/white conflicts... It just makes it
worse...

Nick (Dj Pacific:)

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