Yes I do have high standards. Why would anyone want to have low ones. I
never said that Micho does not make "good" music. I was inquiring to his
use of the word "experiment" to describe what he does. I disagreed with the
description and ask about it. How is that being "hash" or "stuck-up". I am
just being honest and looking for an honest dialogue.
I would never say that what I am doing or have done was "newer" than
anything else. There is always a large history that I am drawing from when
ever I am working on a project.
Just because you put your "heart" into something that has "soul" does not
make it anything, let alone "experimental". Yes the Grand-Pubahs are
drawing from different genres of music, but that is no where near
"experimental". It is pastiche.
Just remember you are the one that has perceived me as being "rude".
Jared Wilson
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From: Nathan John de Yonker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: JARED WILSON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 11:12:05 -0400 (EDT)
> I would disagree. Experimentation does not exist.
I think this attitude is pretty harsh and stuck up. By using the same
logic, you could say that Charles Mingus isn't "experimental". After all,
the double-bass had been around for centuries before him, as did the keys
and chords that he used. It isn't as if he singlehandedly invented jazz,
right?
I think a more laidback and encouraging attitude would be to say that
almost anything with soul is experimental. Take the Detroit Grand PuBahs.
They're using booty, detroit techno, and dub, and taking the piss out of
it. Having fun and seeing how far they can go. Like it or not musically,
(and I am nearer to the not), I'd say they are putting their heart into
it, having a blast, and expanding the horizons of the music coming out of
our city. Respectable, IMO. I try to not be so inclusive as to what I
consider experimental, and it benefits my art and my dealings with others
greatly.
Micho makes good music, and does it in his own quirky little way.
Manipulating the guts of musical equipment, nonmusical equipment,
pyrotechnics, etc. are not considered experiments? I think you have pretty
high standards, Jared. Then using such a rude term as "reinventing the
wheel" and excusing yourself by saying "no offense I just want some
discourse." Remember that sinewaves, quadrophenia, and room tone aren't
exactly inventing new forms of wheels, either. Perhaps you could give us
some more concrete examples of what "experimental art" means to you (no
pun intended with the concrete)
n8
>
> Jared Wilson
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>
> >From: Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: JARED WILSON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom
> >Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:23:27 +0100 (BST)
> >
> > > Micho,
> > >
> > > I realy do not believe what you are doing or have done would be
> >concidered
> > > "experimental".
> >
> >If it involves experimentation it is experimental - so if I sit down to
> >make a track, if I do not start out with a concrete idea but instead
> >figure it out as i go, then this is "experimental" no matter how
straight
> >ahead the resulting track is.
> >
> >neil
> >
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