I can't figure out, David, why you aren't working towards being a college professor. Whenever you start discussing something I feel like a caveman.
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:25 AM, David Powers <[email protected]> wrote: > First of all, it's the opposite, punk was (supposedly) influenced by > situationism, which really amounts to nothing more than the fact that > the manager of the Sex Pistols appropriated situationist > techniques--only I personally think that this appropriation was a > clear example of "recuperation". Teenage > > Exhibit 1: I fail to see how not knowing and not caring what one is > doing has anything to do with liberation. Compare this to Detroit > techno, where, although some artists may not initially have known what > they were doing, they most certainly did care, as evidenced by Juan > Atkins very successful articulation of Detroit techno as embodying a > particular aesthetic approach to musical creation. > > 'Marcus quotes the musician Paul Westerberg as saying that he became > enthralled with the Sex Pistols because “It was obvious that they > didn’t know what they were doing and they didn’t care.” That statement > is the core belief of all the movements that Marcus explores. He > artfully shows that this is not a declaration of nihilism but a > striving for liberation from what the Situationists called “The > Spectacle.”' > http://hcl.harvard.edu/harvardreview/OnlineJournal/HRO_1/reviews/MarcusMcWhirter.html > > Exhibit 2: Using situationist-looking graphics doesn't make you a > situationist. Note how the album covers are "eagerly sought after by > collectors today"--precisely a recuperation within the context of > consumer culture. > > 'Not much later, Reid placed his collage style -- commingling mass > media texts with cut-outs -- at the disposal of Malcolm Maclaren, also > a King Mob veteran. Maclaren's management -- not to mention his > manufacture -- of the Sex Pistols, looks suspiciously like a cynical > experiment in Situationist social engineering. Some of the graphics > which adorn Sex Pistols album covers (eagerly sought after by > collectors today) Reid had previously placed in pro-situ > publications.' > http://www.primitivism.com/situationism.htm > > ~David > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Philip McGarva <[email protected]> > wrote: >> situationism was punk, see g. marcus 'lipstick traces' :^)
