I am laughing at the idea of a 'serious dance DJ'.
On 18 Jun 2013, at 15:56, David Powers <[email protected]> wrote: > If you are a radio DJ, sure, but from the viewpoint of a serious dance > DJ I would definitely would want an edit for these reasons: > > 1. Most important, at minimum you need to loop up something at > beginning and end for mixing into and out of > > 2. Typical pop song structure is too short for the dance floor, it > really makes it's point as quickly as possible and suddenly the song > is over. This doesn't create the type of altered state of > consciousness you want for dancers; to me dancing is very spiritual > and you want music/rhythms that are conducive to attaining a real > trance state, without needing drugs. I am not really a big fan of your > normal pop music formulate, it's very limiting. > > 3. For me personally, the chorus is a bit too epic and cheese, I'd > prefer to somehow tone it down somehow, filter and otherwise dub it > out, and probably would only let it appear once, not multiple times as > in normal pop song structure. The verse works for me, but it so > clearly leads into the chorus that it probably needs to still occur > before the chorus. So, if I was editing it, I would definitely focus > on the intro bit, and the bridge with the keyboard solo; that changes > it from a pop song into a dance track... > > 4. The type of production is really a mismatch in a set of house and > techno records, basically in terms of the drums. Adding a bit of drum > machine really makes it work better on the dance floor. (Remember... > This is EXACTLY what the originators of house were doing with some > disco records!) > > Just one man's opinion, I'm sure others disagree, but as someone who > has released edits, perhaps the above will explain what it is that > drives me to do a bunch of work to alter a song that is already a > "good song"... in a nutshell, the radio pop song form is quite > different from the type of form I prefer as a DJ. There might be > exceptions when I do play a pop song if I figure out a brilliant way > to mix it in, or it's the last song in a set, or for some reason I > want to surprise people, but it's not something I would do often. > > ~dp > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:10 AM, Paul Kendrick <[email protected]> wrote: >> I must say I think Africa is a classic and doesn't need an >> edit/remix/whatever....just play the original... >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Rob Taylor [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: 17 June 2013 15:45 >> To: David Powers >> Cc: Wibo Lammerts; Daniel Bean; benny blanco®; list 313 >> >> Subject: Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix >> >> Quite, David. >> And if you don't like the song in the first place, you have cloth ears and >> your opinion is worthless! >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:31 PM, David Powers <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I could imagine a Toto "Africa" edit being decent, actually, I would >>> have to hear it and judge for myself. I am not sure why one would >>> assume it's no good without hearing it? >>> >>> Haven't heard that Quentin REM remix, that one does seem like a >>> stretch; even so, in Quentin's defense, most of his output is pretty >>> good and some of his remixes and PURE GOLD (I am not going to tell you >>> which ones though, that would be to easy)... Nobody knows anything >>> about them and they KILL the dancefloor every time. If anybody hasn't >>> done digging through his back catalog, I would highly recommend it!!! >>> Those are some of my ultimate secret weapons. >>> >>> ~David >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Wibo Lammerts <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Seriously? An edit of Toto? Really? That's like a Quentin Harris remix >>>> of >>>> "Losing my religion" by REM. Which exists, and totally sucks. >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/6/13 Daniel Bean <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> Haha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Wibo Lammerts [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> Sent: 13 June 2013 15:54 >>>>> To: Rob Taylor >>>>> Cc: benny blanco®; list 313 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That's the C2 HypeMachine in full effect, and you fell for it! Shame! >>>>> ;) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2013/6/13 Rob Taylor <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> the way he described it made it sound awesome! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Wibo Lammerts <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think I heard that one, a while ago. and it is as bad as one could >>>>> imagine. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2013/6/13 Rob Taylor <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> speaking of dodgy remixes, Carl Craig was speaking with Joe Muggs in a >>>>> Resident Advisor podcast recently ( >>>>> http://www.residentadvisor.net/podcast-episode.aspx?exchange=149 ), and >>>>> he >>>>> mentioned a remix/re-edit or maybe even a re-recording of Toto's Africa >>>>> that >>>>> he played at London's Plastic People club. I have a soft spot for this >>>>> tune, >>>>> so would be curious to find out what he meant. Anyone know? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:39 PM, benny blanco® <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I thought this 'tribal' interpretation was pretty blah as well. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The new DM Single, 'Soothe My Soul' has an interesting remix take by ZZ >>>>> Top. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4bPH2U40jAU >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> benny blanco® >>>>> blancodisco.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:22 AM, kent williams <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> No offense intended, but my reaction on first listen to that track is >>>>> that it is hilariously bad. I can imagine it might work on the >>>>> dancefloor -- punters on their 5th hour of thrashing about do love to >>>>> hear something they recognize -- but after the third minute of those >>>>> claves mixed too high I wanted to shoot the producer. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:09 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Found it. >>>>>> Jamie 3:26 sent me the link >>>>>> https://soundcloud.com/polyrhythm-1/personal-jesus-mktl-polyrhythm >>>>>> Thanks anyway guys >>>>>> And DAMN!!!! It wasnt David Morales... It was John Morales from NY >>>>>> :):) >>>>>> Haha >>>>>> Peace >>>>>> Ed >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: >>>>>> "Diego Simak" <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> To: >>>>>> "Daniel Bean" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Cc: >>>>>> "edward thompson" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: >>>>>> Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:32:04 -0300 >>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: >>>>>> Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> yes it is >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2013/6/10 Daniel Bean <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That’s pretty dire. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Diego Simak [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>> Sent: 10 June 2013 13:36 >>>>>>> To: edward thompson >>>>>>> Cc: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xLvArgSp3k >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2013/6/10 edward thompson <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi guys, >>>>>>> I went to 2 parties today (David Morales during the day and Jamie >>>>>>> 3:26 >>>>>>> at >>>>>>> night and at both gigs Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix was >>>>>>> played. >>>>>>> An >>>>>>> absolute dance floor killer of a track. Must be relatively new. >>>>>>> Does anyone know what the remix is and who did it? >>>>>>> Id say all the big boys would be playing it atm. >>>>>>> Peace >>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk >>>>>>> This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >>>>>>> personal >>>>>>> views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. >>>>>>> If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >>>>>>> Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >>>>>>> reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. >>>>>>> Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >>>>>>> Further communication will signify your consent to this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> | http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://vibedeck.com/wibo/ | >>>>> http://twitter.com/w1b0 | >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> | http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://vibedeck.com/wibo/ | >>>>> http://twitter.com/w1b0 | >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk >>>>> This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >>>>> personal >>>>> views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. >>>>> If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >>>>> Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >>>>> reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. >>>>> Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >>>>> Further communication will signify your consent to this. >>>>> >>>>> --------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> | http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://vibedeck.com/wibo/ | >>>> http://twitter.com/w1b0 | >>>> -- >> >>
