Hippy! On 18 Jun 2013, at 16:29, David Powers <[email protected]> wrote:
> Rob, > > Laugh all you want, but to me DJing is a HUGE responsibility, it is > about connecting to a spiritual tradition thousands of years old. > Music has the power to heal, and create very special states of > consciousness. It also has the power to create quite negative states > of consciousness. > > If you examine the way traditional musicians in, for example, West > Africa view music, you would understand what I'm talking about. I have > a friend who is a drummer, from West Africa. He is a griot and is > descended from a family of griots. If you don't know, griots are > musician/story-tellers, and through music they are responsible for > telling the story of their people, as well as healing and other such > things. I see the true role of a contemporary DJ as being a modern > type of griot. They should tell a story through their records, and > connect to history and a deeper tradition through their selection of > music. > > A DJ has an incredible amount of power over their audience. In my > opinion, those who don't take such power seriously, have no business > DJing. They may actually be negatively impacting the well being of > their audience. I do believe that bad music can literally make people > sick in a psycho-spiritual sense! > > ~dp > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Rob Taylor > <[email protected]> wrote: >> I am laughing at the idea of a 'serious dance DJ'. >> >> >> On 18 Jun 2013, at 15:56, David Powers <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> If you are a radio DJ, sure, but from the viewpoint of a serious dance >>> DJ I would definitely would want an edit for these reasons: >>> >>> 1. Most important, at minimum you need to loop up something at >>> beginning and end for mixing into and out of >>> >>> 2. Typical pop song structure is too short for the dance floor, it >>> really makes it's point as quickly as possible and suddenly the song >>> is over. This doesn't create the type of altered state of >>> consciousness you want for dancers; to me dancing is very spiritual >>> and you want music/rhythms that are conducive to attaining a real >>> trance state, without needing drugs. I am not really a big fan of your >>> normal pop music formulate, it's very limiting. >>> >>> 3. For me personally, the chorus is a bit too epic and cheese, I'd >>> prefer to somehow tone it down somehow, filter and otherwise dub it >>> out, and probably would only let it appear once, not multiple times as >>> in normal pop song structure. The verse works for me, but it so >>> clearly leads into the chorus that it probably needs to still occur >>> before the chorus. So, if I was editing it, I would definitely focus >>> on the intro bit, and the bridge with the keyboard solo; that changes >>> it from a pop song into a dance track... >>> >>> 4. The type of production is really a mismatch in a set of house and >>> techno records, basically in terms of the drums. Adding a bit of drum >>> machine really makes it work better on the dance floor. (Remember... >>> This is EXACTLY what the originators of house were doing with some >>> disco records!) >>> >>> Just one man's opinion, I'm sure others disagree, but as someone who >>> has released edits, perhaps the above will explain what it is that >>> drives me to do a bunch of work to alter a song that is already a >>> "good song"... in a nutshell, the radio pop song form is quite >>> different from the type of form I prefer as a DJ. There might be >>> exceptions when I do play a pop song if I figure out a brilliant way >>> to mix it in, or it's the last song in a set, or for some reason I >>> want to surprise people, but it's not something I would do often. >>> >>> ~dp >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:10 AM, Paul Kendrick <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I must say I think Africa is a classic and doesn't need an >>>> edit/remix/whatever....just play the original... >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Rob Taylor [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: 17 June 2013 15:45 >>>> To: David Powers >>>> Cc: Wibo Lammerts; Daniel Bean; benny blanco®; list 313 >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix >>>> >>>> Quite, David. >>>> And if you don't like the song in the first place, you have cloth ears and >>>> your opinion is worthless! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:31 PM, David Powers <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I could imagine a Toto "Africa" edit being decent, actually, I would >>>>> have to hear it and judge for myself. I am not sure why one would >>>>> assume it's no good without hearing it? >>>>> >>>>> Haven't heard that Quentin REM remix, that one does seem like a >>>>> stretch; even so, in Quentin's defense, most of his output is pretty >>>>> good and some of his remixes and PURE GOLD (I am not going to tell you >>>>> which ones though, that would be to easy)... Nobody knows anything >>>>> about them and they KILL the dancefloor every time. If anybody hasn't >>>>> done digging through his back catalog, I would highly recommend it!!! >>>>> Those are some of my ultimate secret weapons. >>>>> >>>>> ~David >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Wibo Lammerts <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Seriously? An edit of Toto? Really? That's like a Quentin Harris remix >>>>>> of >>>>>> "Losing my religion" by REM. Which exists, and totally sucks. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2013/6/13 Daniel Bean <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Haha >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Wibo Lammerts [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>> Sent: 13 June 2013 15:54 >>>>>>> To: Rob Taylor >>>>>>> Cc: benny blanco®; list 313 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's the C2 HypeMachine in full effect, and you fell for it! Shame! >>>>>>> ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2013/6/13 Rob Taylor <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the way he described it made it sound awesome! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Wibo Lammerts <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think I heard that one, a while ago. and it is as bad as one could >>>>>>> imagine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2013/6/13 Rob Taylor <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> speaking of dodgy remixes, Carl Craig was speaking with Joe Muggs in a >>>>>>> Resident Advisor podcast recently ( >>>>>>> http://www.residentadvisor.net/podcast-episode.aspx?exchange=149 ), and >>>>>>> he >>>>>>> mentioned a remix/re-edit or maybe even a re-recording of Toto's Africa >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> he played at London's Plastic People club. I have a soft spot for this >>>>>>> tune, >>>>>>> so would be curious to find out what he meant. Anyone know? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:39 PM, benny blanco® <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I thought this 'tribal' interpretation was pretty blah as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The new DM Single, 'Soothe My Soul' has an interesting remix take by ZZ >>>>>>> Top. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4bPH2U40jAU >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> benny blanco® >>>>>>> blancodisco.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:22 AM, kent williams <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No offense intended, but my reaction on first listen to that track is >>>>>>> that it is hilariously bad. I can imagine it might work on the >>>>>>> dancefloor -- punters on their 5th hour of thrashing about do love to >>>>>>> hear something they recognize -- but after the third minute of those >>>>>>> claves mixed too high I wanted to shoot the producer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:09 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> Found it. >>>>>>>> Jamie 3:26 sent me the link >>>>>>>> https://soundcloud.com/polyrhythm-1/personal-jesus-mktl-polyrhythm >>>>>>>> Thanks anyway guys >>>>>>>> And DAMN!!!! It wasnt David Morales... It was John Morales from NY >>>>>>>> :):) >>>>>>>> Haha >>>>>>>> Peace >>>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: >>>>>>>> "Diego Simak" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To: >>>>>>>> "Daniel Bean" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Cc: >>>>>>>> "edward thompson" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Sent: >>>>>>>> Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:32:04 -0300 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Subject: >>>>>>>> Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> yes it is >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2013/6/10 Daniel Bean <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That’s pretty dire. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Diego Simak [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>>>> Sent: 10 June 2013 13:36 >>>>>>>>> To: edward thompson >>>>>>>>> Cc: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xLvArgSp3k >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2013/6/10 edward thompson <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi guys, >>>>>>>>> I went to 2 parties today (David Morales during the day and Jamie >>>>>>>>> 3:26 >>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>> night and at both gigs Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix was >>>>>>>>> played. >>>>>>>>> An >>>>>>>>> absolute dance floor killer of a track. Must be relatively new. >>>>>>>>> Does anyone know what the remix is and who did it? >>>>>>>>> Id say all the big boys would be playing it atm. >>>>>>>>> Peace >>>>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------------------------- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk >>>>>>>>> This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >>>>>>>>> personal >>>>>>>>> views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. >>>>>>>>> If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >>>>>>>>> Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >>>>>>>>> reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. >>>>>>>>> Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >>>>>>>>> Further communication will signify your consent to this. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> | http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://vibedeck.com/wibo/ | >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/w1b0 | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> | http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://vibedeck.com/wibo/ | >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/w1b0 | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk >>>>>>> This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >>>>>>> personal >>>>>>> views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. >>>>>>> If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >>>>>>> Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >>>>>>> reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. >>>>>>> Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >>>>>>> Further communication will signify your consent to this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> | http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://vibedeck.com/wibo/ | >>>>>> http://twitter.com/w1b0 | >>>>>> -- >>>> >>>>
