Denise
I woke up this morning having had a dream where I hadn't really heard
what James Stinson was saying to Andrew Duke, that it was about
racism, and that Denise was right. The feeling was strong. Only 20
minutes later I'm writing this and I'm still half asleep, but I know
this was playing on my mind since reading an article on the mostly
unknown involvement of Scottish families in the slave trade, and how
Glasgow and Edinburgh benefited, and honoured those families. It makes
you feel sick.
I'm not well read on history, but I also have read more recently about
the practically unknown, hidden and widespread occupation of Scotland
by the British army for many many years following the battle of
Culloden. Following that were the highland clearances, ordered by
land-owners in England. There's a monument to one of them, the Duke of
Sutherland, twice an MP in the British Parliament, he later became the
British ambassador in Paris. People demand that the statue be removed,
or at least moved. In short, it says more about the British
involvement in the slave trade at the time, but Scotland is shamed.
Ports were not directly used, but they were used in some arrangement
which was directly involved with the slave trade. I felt that we had
nothing to do with that ugly business. I was born in Glasgow, and my
ancestors there were all poor working class families. I think we
should be taught this stuff in school. That's all white-washing and as
a result we are mostly ignorant. I will apologise for my own
ignorance, and appreciate that you may be right. I certainly woke with
a strong feeling that you could be.
Regards
Steve
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, at 7:23 PM, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote:
I didn’t say that Black people would be, should be, or are
offended. Read my original statements. I’m confused by your rage.
Better yet, you’re confused by your rage.
Denise
On Oct 24, 2018, at 13:33, Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com> wrote:
Even though English is my second language I just looked it up and I
feel that it was an accurate description of her intentions based on
50% of the synonyms being a match.
Could I have used another word? Sure, there are many synonyms to
choose from. I think “not being fair” and “not applying
proper moral principles” is precisely what she’s guilty of:
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS761US761&hl=en-US&ei=_KnQW9COIdrB0PEPjLmWgAM&ins=false&q=unscrupulous&oq=uns&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.1.0.35i39j0i131l2j46i20i264j0i131.3280.5506..6457...1.0..3.502.2111.0j9j1j5-1......0....1.......5..0j0i71j0i10j46i39j0i131i20i264.72dD2dpqNVQ
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 10:19 AM kent williams
<chaircrus...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it's fine to disagree, even to argue, but putting on my 313
List Administrator Crown and picking up my 313 List Administrator
Sceptre, let me say this:
I think that calling other list members 'unscrupulous' is over the
line. And in this particular case, patently absurd. Denise has
strong opinions and you can argue about them all you want, but she
is not unscrupulous.
To quote Inigo Montoya, "I do not think it means what you think it
means."
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:03 PM Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Agreed,
However I do feel that unscrupulous race-baiting should be called
out just as much as actual racist views/comments.
Next subject? 🤓👊🏿
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:48 AM ja...@iridite.com
<ja...@iridite.com> wrote:
Heh - you obviously weren't part of our.....discussion about Dixon
Avenue Basement Jams a year or so ago on Facebook :)
ANYWAY....let's move off the insta-drama and on to the music..much
love, massive respect, nuff said
Jason
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 17:42, kent williams <chaircrus...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Tom Cox got the fuck out of the 313 list when the getting was good.
He's still as opinionated as ever, still doing battle with the sucka
MCs (aren't we all?), but I think he mostly stays out of trouble
these days.
I'm trying to remember when he posted to 313 last. Something like 15
years ago?
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:38 AM Martin Dust
<mar...@dustscience.com> wrote:
On 24 Oct 2018, at 17:36,ja...@iridite.com wrote:
Where's Tom Cox when you need him? He's always got a calm and
measured response in situations like this.
Proper LOL
