Yes I suppose it did. I wasn't aware that I was thinking about it, but
as it happens I came across other information a couple of days ago which
opened my eyes, and I will admit when I was wrong. To be fair, I am
sometimes processing things well beyond a conversation. I do not have a
neuro-typical mind, and often struggle to keep up with a conversation.
The feeling I woke up with this morning was that James Stinson did feel
very strongly about it, that I should know, and I hand't really listened
to what he said in the interview. I felt bad about it, because it was
ignorant. In the same manner I would defend other parties that fail to
appreciate the sensitive nature of it, as probably not aware of the
insult. I just didn't see it that way, that the interpretation as a
listener probably just suited my own world view. I want to be clear that
I'm not disappointed if that were the case, and I regret writing that I
would be disappointed. I am not personally ashamed, but I see no reason
to be disappointed. It's fair enough. I just don't really know enough
about it, leading to my ignorance.
It's funny the emoticon you have put there looks like happy surprise
(though it probably depends on the image being used in the particular
email reader I guess). It's hard to tell if it's meant to be. You seem
happily provocative, and I don't really object to that. I might go and
read more of what you have got to say about it. The music is something
else in any case, but I accept that you probably know a lot better the
motivations behind the music, and that you may be right.
On Tue, 6 Nov 2018, at 12:15 PM, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> It took you this long to think of a response. š²
>
> On Nov 6, 2018, at 04:07, Steven Robertson <stev...@k-os.net> wrote:
>> Denise
>>
>> I woke up this morning having had a dream where I hadn't really heard
>> what James Stinson was saying to Andrew Duke, that it was about
>> racism, and that Denise was right. The feeling was strong. Only 20
>> minutes later I'm writing this and I'm still half asleep, but I know
>> this was playing on my mind since reading an article on the mostly
>> unknown involvement of Scottish families in the slave trade, and how
>> Glasgow and Edinburgh benefited, and honoured those families. It
>> makes you feel sick.>>
>> I'm not well read on history, but I also have read more recently
>> about the practically unknown, hidden and widespread occupation of
>> Scotland by the British army for many many years following the battle
>> of Culloden. Following that were the highland clearances, ordered by
>> land-owners in England. There's a monument to one of them, the Duke
>> of Sutherland, twice an MP in the British Parliament, he later became
>> the British ambassador in Paris. People demand that the statue be
>> removed, or at least moved. In short, it says more about the British
>> involvement in the slave trade at the time, but Scotland is shamed.
>> Ports were not directly used, but they were used in some arrangement
>> which was directly involved with the slave trade. I felt that we had
>> nothing to do with that ugly business. I was born in Glasgow, and my
>> ancestors there were all poor working class families. I think we
>> should be taught this stuff in school. That's all white-washing and
>> as a result we are mostly ignorant. I will apologise for my own
>> ignorance, and appreciate that you may be right. I certainly woke
>> with a strong feeling that you could be.>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, at 7:23 PM, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> I didnāt say that Black people would be, should be, or are offended.
>>> Read my original statements. Iām confused by your rage. Better yet,
>>> youāre confused by your rage.>>>
>>> Denise
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 24, 2018, at 13:33, Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Even though English is my second language I just looked it up and I
>>>> feel that it was an accurate description of her intentions based on
>>>> >50% of the synonyms being a match.>>>>
>>>> Could I have used another word? Sure, there are many synonyms to
>>>> choose from. I think ānot being fairā and ānot applying proper
>>>> moral principlesā is precisely what sheās guilty of:>>>>
>>>> https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS761US761&hl=en-US&ei=_KnQW9COIdrB0PEPjLmWgAM&ins=false&q=unscrupulous&oq=uns&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.1.0.35i39j0i131l2j46i20i264j0i131.3280.5506..6457...1.0..3.502.2111.0j9j1j5-1......0....1.......5..0j0i71j0i10j46i39j0i131i20i264.72dD2dpqNVQ>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 10:19 AM kent williams
>>>> <chaircrus...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>> I think it's fine to disagree, even
>>>> to argue, but putting on my
>>>>> 313 List Administrator Crown and picking up my 313 List
>>>>> Administrator Sceptre, let me say this:>>>>>
>>>>> I think that calling other list members 'unscrupulous' is over the
>>>>> line. And in this particular case, patently absurd. Denise has
>>>>> strong opinions and you can argue about them all you want, but she
>>>>> is not unscrupulous.>>>>>
>>>>> To quote Inigo Montoya, "I do not think it means what you think
>>>>> it means.">>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:03 PM Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:>>>>>> Agreed,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However I do feel that unscrupulous race-baiting should be called
>>>>>> out just as much as actual racist views/comments.>>>>>>
>>>>>> Next subject? š¤ššæ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:48 AM ja...@iridite.com
>>>>>> <ja...@iridite.com> wrote:>>>>>>> Heh - you obviously weren't part of
>>>>>> our.....discussion about
>>>>>>> Dixon Avenue Basement Jams a year or so ago on Facebook :)>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ANYWAY....let's move off the insta-drama and on to the
>>>>>>> music..much love, massive respect, nuff said>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 17:42, kent williams
>>>>>>> <chaircrus...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>> Tom Cox got the fuck out of the
>>>>>>> 313 list when the getting was
>>>>>>>> good. He's still as opinionated as ever, still doing battle
>>>>>>>> with the sucka MCs (aren't we all?), but I think he mostly
>>>>>>>> stays out of trouble these days.>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm trying to remember when he posted to 313 last. Something
>>>>>>>> like 15 years ago?>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:38 AM Martin Dust
>>>>>>>> <mar...@dustscience.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > On 24 Oct 2018, at 17:36,ja...@iridite.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Where's Tom Cox when you need him? He's always got a calm
>>>>>>>>> > and measured response in situations like this.>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Proper LOL
>>
