Woah dude wtf?? I compared the black Hebrew Israelites to KKK who are entirely different. Apparently you’re not familiar with them.
Where did you get BLM from what I wrote? Honest mistake or are you joining Rob by putting words in my mouth? #fakenews appears strong with you two. On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 3:12 PM U&I Design <uandidesigndetr...@gmail.com> wrote: > I can speak from personal experience that the Detroit police have actually > helped the team I worked with to find a venue, pull a liquor license, and > get the proper insurance so we could have an all night party Movement > weekend of 2003... But I also know people who have been brutalized by > police because they were driving in the wrong neighborhood, ie driving in a > white city while black. > > I know that Black Lives Matter is a very important movement because the > systemic racism in this country is ridiculously disgusting and anyone who > denies the fact that this movement is necessary, well, I imagine they've > never looked into appropriation of black culture and black music. I imagine > they've never asked the Detroit musicians they work with about the fears > they have going north of 8 mile. I imagine they don't dig deep into > conversations about any of this with the black musicians they know, and I > imagine if they did broach the subject, they aren't really asking to learn, > they are just asking to appease or make themselves look "woke". > > I know I'm white and I've used my white privilege more than a few times to > snap back at people who were being racist. I've also used my skills in > understanding how social networks work and worked on a number of teams > where we created event programs to bridge racial and socioeconomic divides, > creating a space where blacks and whites felt safe to come together. Its > not easy, but its definitely necessary. > > I don't enjoy seeing these threads where people who love Detroit Techno > are now comparing BLM to the KKK... or where someone who has studied > in-depth about Detroit Techno and actually put out published writings about > the music is being targeted because she's had some snarky responses to > threads that I personally would've like to smack sense into the people > writing them but since I tend to not engage with those posts, I guess I've > "lucked out" and not been targeted in the same way. > > I fear that this list is about to succumb to the same political divide > that is currently plaguing our country. I would recommend the moderator > maybe curate some topics to try and start/lead the conversations back > toward Detroit Techno. There are some truly incredible stories in the > history of Detroit Techno... > > Has anyone talked about the time that a vanful of Detroit's originators > loaded into a cargo van to go to NYC for the music conference? I think 17 > people crammed into that van. Mike Banks was driving, Jeff Mills was in the > passenger seat, the back was crammed with people. So full that Billy Love > had to ride in the door well... > > Now those kinds of stories are what I'm always on the hunt for. > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 17:30 Denise Dalphond <denisedalph...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Black Lives Matter. >> >> How is this about police? Why you gotta make this about politics? >> Everything is about politics with you. When you defund the police, you get >> a little bit of chaos, that's to be expected. But I feel like we already >> were havin chaos, so it's not even different. >> >> Since when is club culture about lovin the police??? The cops shut down >> the parties. The best raves are illegal. A lot of electronic dance music >> scholars have written so much about legal issues related to rave and dance >> club culture. It's almost boring. Does anyone read anymore? Books? >> Articles? Well researched stuff? No? Nothin? >> >> >> >> *Denise Dalphond, Ph.D.* >> *ethnomusicologist* >> *schoolcraftwax.work <http://schoolcraftwax.work>* >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:18 PM Rob Taylor <barringtonphelo...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Not sure why you’re in this group Joe if you are equating any black >>> movement with the KKK, esp if you are defending cops >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 30 Jun 2020, at 20:20, Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> As much as I’d love to respond by saying “figures you’d defend a group >>> that’s pretty much the black version of the KKK which makes you a bigger >>> racist than they are ” I won’t out of respect to Rob’s request 🍻🙏 >>> >>> Sorry guys, just taking advantage of the Wild West here while it lasts. >>> See what happens when you abolish the police? 😆 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 11:56 AM Denise Dalphond < >>> denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Joe, I blocked you a long time ago, too. It takes a lot of effort to >>>> sort through your loony messages. Which racist group? White people? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Denise Dalphond, Ph.D.* >>>> *ethnomusicologist* >>>> *schoolcraftwax.work <http://schoolcraftwax.work>* >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 2:40 PM Rob Taylor < >>>> barringtonphelo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Very familiar, hence the comment. Please stop with this both Joe and >>>>> Denise. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On 30 Jun 2020, at 19:26, Rob Taylor <barringtonphelo...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It is. Wtf. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On 30 Jun 2020, at 19:07, Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Not sure if you’re familiar with the context with that racist group >>>>> and Karen’s actions here. Apparently not? >>>>> >>>>> If so you’d see that my comment was spot on. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 11:04 AM Daniel Bean <danbean....@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This sounds quite racist. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 6:59 PM Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Don’t you have a black Hebrew Israelite rally to attend as the >>>>>>> designated foot-kisser?? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:57 AM Denise Dalphond < >>>>>>> denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oh wow. I skim emails out of habit from being a mom in graduate >>>>>>>> school all those years. Somebody said I have a penis? No. I just >>>>>>>> remind you >>>>>>>> how small and skinny yours is. Or my alphaness just makes it limp. >>>>>>>> Either >>>>>>>> way, you’re too short. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:45 PM The Archiver < >>>>>>>> thearchi...@thearchiver.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can you close the door on your way out... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 30 Jun 2020, at 17:52, Denise Dalphond < >>>>>>>>> denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I’m still on the list, yo. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This list is about making a huge deal about something and then not >>>>>>>>> doing it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Have you just been listening to DJ Hyperactive instead of dealing >>>>>>>>> with Hyperreal, Dan Sicko? Oh I mean Kent. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:36 AM kent williams < >>>>>>>>> chaircrus...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. Detroit techno music >>>>>>>>>> 2. Detroit house music >>>>>>>>>> 3. Music inspired by Detroint techno and house music >>>>>>>>>> 4. Ghettotech & Jit. >>>>>>>>>> 5. The people who make 1-4 >>>>>>>>>> 6. The social and political context of 1-5 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What it isn't about: >>>>>>>>>> 1. Any individual list member unless they're in #5 above >>>>>>>>>> 2. The list admin. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Since you're coming for me in particular. >>>>>>>>>> 0. "Corn music" - are you having a laugh? >>>>>>>>>> 1. "With all due respect" is a euphemism for "You supreme >>>>>>>>>> bell-end" "No offense" means "I'm going to be offensive." >>>>>>>>>> 2. I have made 3 albums and several EPs and I generally don't >>>>>>>>>> bring them up here. While I count Detroit music as a huge influence, >>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>> music has diverged from anything that could be called techno, so >>>>>>>>>> I've made >>>>>>>>>> myself off-topic. >>>>>>>>>> 3. I have the job of list administrator (not moderator) because >>>>>>>>>> no one else wanted it. I do the best I can and if you don't like it, >>>>>>>>>> unsubscribe. I posted instructions on how to do so the other day in >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> spirit of "Let me google that for you." >>>>>>>>>> 4. Do you mean "Langer" as in slang for penis? That comment >>>>>>>>>> seems out of order on several levels. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 5:52 AM cnd <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm with Kevin and Denise on this one. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is a list about dark black music and rhythm control. With >>>>>>>>>>> all due >>>>>>>>>>> respect, a single mod who makes corn music doesn't really cut in >>>>>>>>>>> politically. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Noi offense Eamonn but at least Denise has a langer ;-) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> cheers >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> C >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. >>>>>>>>> ethnomusicologist >>>>>>>>> schoolcraftwax.work >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. >>>>>>>> ethnomusicologist >>>>>>>> schoolcraftwax.work >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
