After reading this thread for a while now, I would like to respond to Lester's original post..; IMO, you see records being played out longer than before (i.e. the 80's) due to the fact that dj's just aren't quick mixing & with the energy like they used to; doing tricks, taking chances, etc... the records being made today do all the work for you (95% of which, IMO, are quite 2-dimensional &/or gimmicky..). In addition, this is still TOO much work for some people who don't want to get off their ass- the same people who are creating ways to mix on their computer; now they don't EVER have to leave their desk to be a dj!! (Sorry, this is an entirely different thread...) Newcomers let the quality of the set fall ENTIRELY on their records, instead of using their SKILLS to pump up the crowd. Give some people nowadays a crate of records from just 8 years ago & they wouldn't know what to do with themselves. To me, I would rather hear someone using THEIR creativity with a bunch of deep, sick tracks (see Traxx, Dj Hell, Theo, Carlos Souffront, etc.) to make a special moment on the dancefloor rather than the latest remix of (insert your fave cheesy childhood pop song here) played next to the flavor of the moment ravehouse/salsa/buildup/trance amalgam again & again. Going to Motor is quite the museum for this nowadays, djs who used to beat it for 13 years now play the latest greatest hands-in-the-air cut that the guy last week played (or the guy who opened). So long as you can beat match nowadays & you got those 20 current tunes that'll make the glow sticks move faster, make a tape & send it to (insert your fave club from the D here..)!! It doesn't matter if you have style all your own, you will only get paid 1/3 of what the big names get (even though they just started playing this cheesy recently too (shhh.. don't tell!!)).
But I digress.
In response to...

I too hate the 'look mama how many records I can squeeze into an hour'-style.

Well, true. Anyone who is playing that many *just* for the sake of doing so... is a moron. I do however think that some up & comers need to be trained as to when enough is enough-- 8 minutes of Jaguar and counting...

>the more i read this, the more i ask myself if you guys have ever >heard a really
>superb dj (which e.g. jeff mills is a solarsystem away from).

And finally someone who dares to say that Jeff Mills is not God behind the decks.

Mills never claims to be God, why would you listen to anyone quoting such tripe? However if you're denying Mills' ability as an exquisite dj and artist, I would be curious to see who is 'superb' in your book. You know I heard Oakenfold is pretty smooth. Same for Guiness Stout and babies' bottoms...

Smoothness all the way baby!
yeah.

>confused
>when i heard a good track and another one is rolling in like a train in my
>face, 5 beats
>faster than the one which is just playing (umfgadumppengbaengbumm). >even if i seem
>>to be alone on this point of view, but i can't dance to that.
OBVIOUSLY...!  Who wants to hear someone who can't even match beats???
Thought that was a given. Besides, why are giving your cash to these fools anyway?? Don't support the thieves, crackheads & the hard-of-hearing (no offense to the deaf) in the scene. If everyone supported the true jacks we ALL would be much better off...

>i love to spin two tracks for 10 minutes (if possible) together and >play around with them.
*yawn*...

j|m

(not going to see Mills @ the State cuz dj shortround's not opening up....) =)

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