I fully agree with you here...

however, and someone brought this up...

There are DJ's, like Danny Teneglia and others, who *do* let the records
work themselves, but do it in a way that encompasses a grander picture.

But, there is a difference between these types, and the types that you and I
(and others) become critical of.  They not only let the record do *all* the
work, but fail, totally, to link the records or put them in the proper place
for the proper mood...

I don't like "50 records an hour", or "10 records an hour", I enjoy 5 minute
mixes on three tables...

In other words, I personally enjoy it when there is perpetually two or
records in the mix...

darw_n

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----- Original Message -----
From: "juliette morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 8:05 PM
Subject: [313] the LONG & short of dj sets


> After reading this thread for a while now, I would like to respond to
> Lester's original post..;  IMO, you see records being played out longer
than
> before (i.e. the 80's) due to the fact that dj's just aren't quick mixing
&
> with the energy like they used to; doing tricks, taking chances, etc...
the
> records being made today do all the work for you (95% of which, IMO, are
> quite 2-dimensional &/or gimmicky..).
> In addition, this is still TOO much work for some people who don't want to
> get off their ass- the same people who are creating ways to mix on their
> computer;  now they don't EVER have to leave their desk to be a dj!!
(Sorry,
> this is an entirely different thread...)
> Newcomers let the quality of the set fall ENTIRELY on their records,
> instead of using their SKILLS to pump up the crowd.  Give some people
> nowadays a crate of records from just 8 years ago & they wouldn't know
what
> to do with themselves.  To me, I would rather hear someone using THEIR
> creativity with a bunch of deep, sick tracks (see Traxx, Dj Hell, Theo,
> Carlos Souffront, etc.) to make a special moment on the dancefloor rather
> than the latest remix of (insert your fave cheesy childhood pop song here)
> played next to the flavor of the moment ravehouse/salsa/buildup/trance
> amalgam again & again.  Going to Motor is quite the museum for this
> nowadays, djs who used to beat it for 13 years now play the latest
greatest
> hands-in-the-air cut that the guy last week played (or the guy who
opened).
> So long as you can beat match nowadays & you got those 20 current tunes
> that'll make the glow sticks move faster, make a tape & send it to (insert
> your fave club from the D here..)!!  It doesn't matter if you have style
all
> your own, you will only get paid 1/3 of what the big names get (even
though
> they just started playing this cheesy recently too (shhh.. don't tell!!)).
> But I digress.
> In response to...
> >
> >I too hate the 'look mama how many records I can squeeze into an
> >hour'-style.
> >
> Well, true.  Anyone who is playing that many *just* for the sake of doing
> so... is a moron.  I do however think that some up & comers need to be
> trained as to when enough is enough-- 8 minutes of Jaguar and counting...
>
> > >the more i read this, the more i ask myself if you guys have ever
>heard
> >a really
> > >superb dj (which e.g. jeff mills is a solarsystem away from).
> >
> >And finally someone who dares to say that Jeff Mills is not God behind
the
> >decks.
> >
> Mills never claims to be God, why would you listen to anyone quoting such
> tripe?  However if you're denying Mills' ability as an exquisite dj and
> artist, I would be curious to see who is 'superb' in your book.
> You know I heard Oakenfold is pretty smooth.  Same for Guiness Stout and
> babies' bottoms...
>
> >Smoothness all the way baby!
> yeah.
>
> > >confused
> > >when i heard a good track and another one is rolling in like a train in
> >my
> > >face, 5 beats
> > >faster than the one which is just playing (umfgadumppengbaengbumm).
>even
> >if i seem
>  >>to be alone on this point of view, but i can't dance to that.
> OBVIOUSLY...!  Who wants to hear someone who can't even match beats???
> Thought that was a given.  Besides, why are giving your cash to these
fools
> anyway??  Don't support the thieves, crackheads & the hard-of-hearing (no
> offense to the deaf) in the scene.  If everyone supported the true jacks
we
> ALL would be much better off...
>
> > >i love to spin two tracks for 10 minutes (if possible) together and
>play
> >around with them.
> *yawn*...
>
> j|m
>
> (not going to see Mills @ the State cuz dj shortround's not opening
up....)
>       =)
>
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