> > not wanting to start some contoversy here....but
> > IMHO meat beat manifesto
> > kikked dnb off...radio babylon saw them merging big
> > fat dub basslines and
> > speeded up breaks...they were ripped off by the
> > hardcore breakbeat crowd and
> > that developed into dnb....

i remember reading somewhere that ltj bukem et al. were inspired by "bug
in the bassbin", played on 45.  anybody who heard bukem's set on radio
one last year could probably attest to his interest in all things 313,
although i know he's made various disparaging remarks about detroit's
recent output (which seems surprising, given the fact that he dropped
octave one's "art and soul" ep ...)

glyn

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