----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [313] 313 stand on....
> Phonopsia wrote: > I love old Landstrumm from the Peacefrog days. Played some tonight. Since > then a lot of it has been "close but no cigar" for me. His contribution to > one of the New Electronica comps was quite nice and a good change of pace > though. The Blue Arsed Fly stuff was nice too. I don't think Russ > Gabrielle's "In The Bag" remix has ever strayed too far from my crate (not > that that really counts). > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Tristan your missing out on some of Landstrumm's best moments; Praline > Horse, Bedrooms & Cities, Misunderstanding Disinformation (all on Tresor) > all contain some great Landstrumm gems, not to mention his Sativae output, > which may sound a little dated now but still pumps a crowd well. Lately > I've been really digging some downtempo tunes he's produced with Si Begg on > Mosquito (the label Russ initially heard Blue Arse Fly on to sign them to > Ferox). I've got Praline Horse (I like the Vogel mix), Polaris, and I've listened to a lot of the Sativae output in stores, but once he got a lot more noisy, and less pure-101, I lost some interest. I think that's why I prefer Vogel and the Blue Arsed Fly stuff. I can appreciate the noisier sounds (I used to be really into industrial music), but it's not something I really seek out, or purchase. The Landstrumm on Tresor stuff is definitely good for what it is, but I'm simply never in the mood for it. > Vogel on the other hand, was hit an miss for me, I love 'Lock onto Signal' > off of Tresor 5, but dislike most of his other Tresor output, with a few > exceptions, mainly 'Don't Take More' off of "All Music Has come to an End" > and 'Tearing the Groove" shows a side of Vogel I would love to hear a whole > LP by. Which his newest work Rescate 137, comes closer to doing, and if I > could ever find it on vinyl I would snatch it up. For the most part though > I just don't understand his concepts, but then again I'm sure I'm not the > only one. He's quoted as saying "I make music for f***ed up people". Go > figure. I guess I'm one of those people. ;) I also recall a Jockey Slut interview that was all about how he makes "feminine" techno, and that woman respond really well to his music due to the controlled oddity. You'll see the sexual metaphor spelled out in more detail on the "Body Mapping" lp. If you can't tell, I'm coming to all of this from a rather dated perspective, but I've been revisiting a lot of this material lately after a hard techno hiatus. I've been in the mood to bang it when I spin and I don't have much newer hard techno other than Mills and Surgeon. I really like combining those sounds with the early Landstrumm and Vogel workings and some Chicago stuff on Relief like Louis Bell. As I explained to a friend last night, I think a good chunk of my taste is permanently devoted to the Peacefrog output from releases 30-70 or thereabouts. You could practically trace 70% of my musical likes and dislikes back to those records. > I hate Subhead and SuperCollider really didn't hit me either. I'm definitely into SuperCollider too. I think we're coming at this topic from diff't angles. :) > Their impact on techno is far > reaching, and we will be reaping the rewards of their past output's > influence upon future generations for some time to come. Agreed. Is there a more pure synthesis of modern hard Detroit and Chicago influences out there? Perhaps some of the Chicago influence has waned over the years, but it was right up in your face in the beginning. Oh, and I won't stand for the Perlon bashing. :) Tristan ---------- http://ampcast.com/phonopsia <- Music http://phonopsia.tripod.com <- Mixes, pics, thought, travelogue & info http://www.metatrackstudios.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- email <FrogboyMCI> <- AOL Instant Messenger _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
