You have a good point there. But even in a quantized world you can do a lot
to make a bass line an percussion "funky". Listen for example to some trance
records where the bass line always goes pow pow pow pwo or tdadam tadadam...
and than to some for example Derrick May bass lines, and you can definitely
hear which one has more funk.
Come to think of it it's a similar thing just on a bigger scale, you hade to
play so that the beats didn't fall exactly on 1/16th and in quantized world
it's not putting the bass exactly between the kicks... Don't know it this
makes sense anymore :)

Jernej
SoundOfLj.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis DeSantis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 6:38 AM
To: 313
Subject: Re: [313] curious?


The problem with these terms (as well as almost any that are used to
describe music) is that they're not only vague, but that their meanings
morph to suit different types of situations.
Example:  I used to play drums for a funk band in west Michigan.  In THAT
context, funk for me meant a very specific approach to time-keeping and
sense of beat placement, as well as an approach to part-writing that was
stylistically similar to music of certain genres.  Our bass player and I
would discuss ways to synchronize our playing so that we were just the right
amount "late" or "behind the beat".
In techno, the meaning (I think) is something very different, since the
music is generally quantized.  There isn't really a sense of beat placement
in REAL time, and the correspondance between actual and implied beats is
usually 1 to 1 (rather than "late".)
Funky techno, for me, has more to do with texture and timbre than it does
with rhythm.
Soul, on the other hand, is more about an aesthetic and an attitude than it
is about anything concrete.  I agree with Christian, that a good way to
think about it is in terms of "don't sell your soul."  It's a term that
means something like "legitimacy" or "authenticity."

Wow. Reading back on that suddenly made me feel like a big geek.  I'll stop
there.

My $.02,
Dennis DeSantis
www.mp3.com/vanderrohe


----- Original Message -----
From: "Christian Bloch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: [313] curious?


>
>  funk (maybe) soul NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if a track/DJ performance does
not
>  have SOUL, what is there to make it good? maybe you don't understand the
>  term SOUL (as in don't sell your's)....
>
>  Christian Bloch
>  http://mp3.com/bloch
>
>  Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque
>  Droppings/Set.Go/Restructured
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jayson B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 10:32 PM
> > Subject: RE: Re: [313] curious?
> >
> >
>  > I'm sorry, but it really bothers me when the words 'funk' and 'soul' as
> if
>  > they are synonymous with 'good' and 'solid.'   *I* am not a person who
> has
>  > funk or soul, does this mean i'm a bad person?  Just because a track
>  doesn't
>  > contain these elements does not mean its bad.
>
>
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