Well, I see what you're saying here, but then the question remains, "when is it acceptable to voice your frustration?" In other words, at what point is it ok to say something? Was the acceptable level of 'bite' not achieved in this case to prompt the response?
I think Dan did a good job in breaking it down personally. He didn't come straight out and say, "He bit my sh*t!", but rather drew a clear picture on how it came about. I don't wanna sit here and say that "you gotta have put tracks out to fully understand", but there is a certain aspect of that present that'll take too much time/effort to share right now. While reading Dan's letter, I can totally see SWinxter jocking Dan & Co at the parties, similar to how Humpty Vision would jock the turntables when Allen and I would be playin' in LA during the old Plug Research days...hoping to catch a glimpse of the record label that was spinning. I purposely blocked his view and suggested he go and do his homework. There's gotta be some level of respect paid. The way I see it, if you have to think about it twice, then give the props that are due. Dan's gripes are justified, and whether or not it's 'standard practice' to do what Jinx did has no bearing on the validity of Dan's argument. Also, it's pretty weak to attack Dan for not putting out enough records. That too has nothing to do with this discussion. JB -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:30 PM To: Sakari Karipuro Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [313] Bell vs Wink Haven't you all figured out...ALL OF THIS MUSIC SOUNDS ALIKE! But seriously, over the years, as I've listened to more and more electronic music, I've been amazed how many time I found out my favorite part of a track was a sample of a sample of a sample. Yeah, the Wink track sounds like the Bell track. So what! Think about how many tracks use the same elements and how many more sound alike. I don't particualrly think that the Wink track is good. Actually, it kinda sucks. But I think its rather immature for Bell to call him out like that. It doesn't seem like Wink did anythign that isn't standard practive in this music. This also isn't the first time I've heard bitching about Dan Bell's style getting ripped off (though it is admittedly the first time Ive heard it directly from Dan)- but I think the point I'm trying to make is that Dan quite apparantly has sour grapes with Wink. He also certainly has sour grapes with Plus 8. That's a lot of sour grapes for someone who's only put out a few records and none for a very long time. Imagine this- what if Chuck Berry sent out an e-mail bitching that Keith richards stole his riffs. Duh! On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Sakari Karipuro wrote: > Hans Veneman wrote on Thu, 11 Apr 2002 about following: > > > KJ emailed Ovum about this issue. If you want to read Josh Wink's reaction > > to Dan's letter, go here: > > http://technotourist.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1 > > 65&mode=flat&order=0 > > ok this has been already discussed to death and so on and so on but i > really almost fell from my chair laughing on winks last sentence. > > i myself would say that wink's track is remix or cover of dan's > productions, and dan should be credited. that would be at least fair > considering how much alike the tracks are. > > cover/remix, remix/cover - its a thin line in electronic music. > > > sakke > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
