I saw Richie at Lost on Sunday and thought he was pretty uninspiring - especially after AFX's 90 minute set. He started off with 7 Drexciya tunes and then dropped Mill's Axis vs Subject (what a phenomenal track) - which went down well, then he then finished off with 30 minutes of gabba... respect to the Lost audience for putting up with it as it became very intense towards the end!
I've got divided opinion on him really. Hawtin's approach in theory is very interesting and full of promise, but the reality is that his sound never deviates at all - even with 3 decks and whatnot, he still manages to play some pretty dull tracks. I realise that a lot of the subtler (and much more interesting) tracks that he plays on both DE 909 and C to the E - would be consumed by a lesser soundsystem, but the fact remains that Lost's rig is of one of the better around, and still he prefers to play the same old looped bangers. Still, what's to say that techno has to have "soul" or "funk" - why can't we have some industrial sounding stuff? ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Cheshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'The Deliverator' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; gilt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:30 PM Subject: RE: [313] Does anyone compare to Hawtin? > Hi All > > Sorry just to add my 2 pennie worth.. > > I like Hawtin as A producer and since hearing him for while > DJ'ing, I think his production is miles better than his DJ'ing..why? > > well it a bit more imaginative..his sets are so pre-programmed by final > scratch that > yes its a great product for DJ's but it does now sound so programmed and > non-live.. > > I wondered if anyone saw him in the uk at LOST or Homelands.. I got told > that he > was quite boring at Homelands, but suprise suprise Jeff was the absolute > bomb as was Laurent..Jeff also managed to fit in The Kings of Tomorrow into > his set...nice :) > > so does anyone else feel Richies sets are a little too progammed with no > depth?? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: The Deliverator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 05 June 2002 16:22 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; gilt > Subject: Re: [313] Does anyone compare to Hawtin? > > > Well, > > After having missed only this Hawtin Party over the past 4 years I have to > say that the last Control left me feeling a little empty. I love a loud > sound system just as much as anyone, but even wearing earplugs the entire > night my ears *still* rang for seven days afterwards. 1500 people jammed > into a club designed for 500 is really no fun either- no room left to boogie > without punching some poor guy behind you in the head :-) Also, I'm really, > really, *really*, sick of City Club. Expecting people to stand for 12 hours > is unrealistic, and sitting on the City Club floor leaves one literally > filthy. The other thing that bothers me a bit, is that at Integral, U, NYE > 1999, and the +8 party at Saint Andrews, a lot of attention was put into the > physical environment- transforming it into something that it wasn't before. > The past series of parties at the City Club, the club has been left > essentially untouched. I really don't like seeing the same old damn club > exactly the way it was when I was a goth kid at 18 years old. It leaves > more than a little to be desired Despite a couple of glorious moments at > Control I and Jak, I still feel that something very fundamental was missing- > what exactly that was I can't put my finger on. I've been really hoping to > hear something deeper and funkier, more along the lines of de9:ce, but that > still hasn't happened. I respect Hawtin as a producer and a DJ- it was > really his sets on 96.3 when I was a teenager that introduced me to Techno. > I've been a Hawtin freak for years, but nonetheless I have to say that I am > ready for something truly innovative from him, and I know that he has the > ability to do something completely off the wall compared to what he's been > doing. What he doing is played out. It's time to move on. > > just my 666 cents > > jim > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mxyzptlk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:07 PM > Subject: Re: [313] Does anyone compare to Hawtin? > > > > I find it bothersome that the people who are discarding Hawtin because of > > his set weren't even at the party. > > > > The fact is, he played very little 140bpm boom-boom-boom > > > > He seems to be taking cues from the Perlon guys and getting into weirder > > rhythms that are still funky and techno and housy all at the same time. > > > > > > Yes, there was a few hours of techno KREKC!!! > > > > But over the ten hours I was at the party, I found myself getting down as > > often as I was bangin' my head. > > > > Please don't speak about partys you did not attend. > > > > Its really bad form. > > > > > > > > On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Mxyzptlk wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I have a lot of respect for Richie, but I don't think his DJ-ing long > > > >sets of hard techno would really do it for me any more. There's too > much > > > >out there that's more interesting. > > > > > > Not to knock Mr. Hawtin at all, but I have to second Kent's sentiments. > I > > > am no veteran of his DJ sets, but I was pretty unamazed at his DEMF set > a > > > while back. It seemed like a bunch of people screaming every time the > bass > > > kicked in or the incessantly repeated snare rush incessantly repeated. > > > > > > jeff > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
