Funnily enough I was there too ... (imho - which all of this is of course) although there were undoubtedly some sublime moments in RH's set (many but not all of which I experienced) it could also be surprisingly lackluster given the veritable smorgasbord of tools and talent at the man's disposal ... Aphex Twin's set varied a lot more - not always attractively! but at least it did ... But the secret show stealer was Andy Weatherall in room II, playing blissed-up, dubbed out, funky breaks.
>-----Original Message----- >From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:00 PM >To: Ian Cheshire; 313 >Subject: Re: [313] Does anyone compare to Hawtin? > > >I saw Richie at Lost on Sunday and thought he was pretty uninspiring - >especially after AFX's 90 minute set. He started off with 7 Drexciya tunes >and then dropped Mill's Axis vs Subject (what a phenomenal track) - which >went down well, then he then finished off with 30 minutes of gabba... >respect to the Lost audience for putting up with it as it became very >intense towards the end! > >I've got divided opinion on him really. Hawtin's approach in theory is very >interesting and full of promise, but the reality is that his sound never >deviates at all - even with 3 decks and whatnot, he still manages to play >some pretty dull tracks. I realise that a lot of the subtler (and >much more >interesting) tracks that he plays on both DE 909 and C to the E - would be >consumed by a lesser soundsystem, but the fact remains that Lost's rig is >of one of the better around, and still he prefers to play the same old >looped bangers. > >Still, what's to say that techno has to have "soul" or "funk" - >why can't we >have some industrial sounding stuff? > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Ian Cheshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: 'The Deliverator' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; gilt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:30 PM >Subject: RE: [313] Does anyone compare to Hawtin? > > >> Hi All >> >> Sorry just to add my 2 pennie worth.. >> >> I like Hawtin as A producer and since hearing him for while >> DJ'ing, I think his production is miles better than his DJ'ing..why? >> >> well it a bit more imaginative..his sets are so pre-programmed by final >> scratch that >> yes its a great product for DJ's but it does now sound so programmed and >> non-live.. >> >> I wondered if anyone saw him in the uk at LOST or Homelands.. I got told >> that he >> was quite boring at Homelands, but suprise suprise Jeff was the absolute >> bomb as was Laurent..Jeff also managed to fit in The Kings of Tomorrow >into >> his set...nice :) >> >> so does anyone else feel Richies sets are a little too progammed with no >> depth?? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: The Deliverator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 05 June 2002 16:22 >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] >> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; gilt >> Subject: Re: [313] Does anyone compare to Hawtin? >> >> >> Well, >> >> After having missed only this Hawtin Party over the past 4 years >I have to >> say that the last Control left me feeling a little empty. I love a loud >> sound system just as much as anyone, but even wearing earplugs the entire >> night my ears *still* rang for seven days afterwards. 1500 people jammed >> into a club designed for 500 is really no fun either- no room left to >boogie >> without punching some poor guy behind you in the head :-) Also, I'm >really, >> really, *really*, sick of City Club. Expecting people to stand for 12 >hours >> is unrealistic, and sitting on the City Club floor leaves one literally >> filthy. The other thing that bothers me a bit, is that at >Integral, U, NYE >> 1999, and the +8 party at Saint Andrews, a lot of attention was put into >the >> physical environment- transforming it into something that it wasn't >before. >> The past series of parties at the City Club, the club has been left >> essentially untouched. I really don't like seeing the same old damn club >> exactly the way it was when I was a goth kid at 18 years old. It leaves >> more than a little to be desired Despite a couple of glorious moments at >> Control I and Jak, I still feel that something very fundamental was >missing- >> what exactly that was I can't put my finger on. I've been really hoping >to >> hear something deeper and funkier, more along the lines of de9:ce, but >that >> still hasn't happened. I respect Hawtin as a producer and a DJ- it was >> really his sets on 96.3 when I was a teenager that introduced me to >Techno. >> I've been a Hawtin freak for years, but nonetheless I have to say that I >am >> ready for something truly innovative from him, and I know that he has the >> ability to do something completely off the wall compared to what >he's been >> doing. What he doing is played out. It's time to move on. >> >> just my 666 cents >> >> jim >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Mxyzptlk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Cc: "Kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:07 PM >> Subject: Re: [313] Does anyone compare to Hawtin? >> >> >> > I find it bothersome that the people who are discarding Hawtin because >of >> > his set weren't even at the party. >> > >> > The fact is, he played very little 140bpm boom-boom-boom >> > >> > He seems to be taking cues from the Perlon guys and getting >into weirder >> > rhythms that are still funky and techno and housy all at the same time. >> > >> > >> > Yes, there was a few hours of techno KREKC!!! >> > >> > But over the ten hours I was at the party, I found myself getting down >as >> > often as I was bangin' my head. >> > >> > Please don't speak about partys you did not attend. >> > >> > Its really bad form. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Mxyzptlk wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >I have a lot of respect for Richie, but I don't think his DJ-ing >long >> > > >sets of hard techno would really do it for me any more. There's too >> much >> > > >out there that's more interesting. >> > > >> > > Not to knock Mr. Hawtin at all, but I have to second Kent's >sentiments. >> I >> > > am no veteran of his DJ sets, but I was pretty unamazed at his DEMF >set >> a >> > > while back. It seemed like a bunch of people screaming every time the >> bass >> > > kicked in or the incessantly repeated snare rush incessantly >repeated. >> > > >> > > jeff >> > > >> > > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
