Could you point to where I had reposted private email to 313? Also, like wise,
I
don't remeber replying to a private email and cc'ing 313. I believe that I
replied to a posting that on the 313 list.
I don't mind being held to my point, but I don't see where that is
happening. I never recieved any private email. From what I read (could be
wrong), replying
to a public 313 posting, and including the original sender isn't against those
suggestions.
And as for people dropping ship, it happens all the time. I'd have to say I've
unsubscribed over 20 times myself since 1995 or so. But if one wishes to
participate in discussions of Detroit based music, it's worth hitting the delete
button from my point of view. If I don't have time in my life to deal with
some of the drama that always surrounds people who are passionate around
music (and what that music is attempting to protray), then I unsubscribe.
I agree ... on to Discussions on Detroit Techno but I personally, agree that
this
list should stay unmoderated in regards to 1 person being the end all for what
can
and can't be on the list. List moderation , an actual single moderator,
develops more of a community spirit then a dictorship.
Dave
:P wrote:
> sorry David, BUT, from the very source you quote:
>
> "Do not repost private email to 313. Likewise do not reply in private email
> and 'CC' 313. This is both illegal (falling under the reproduction of an
> original copyrighted work without permission) and highly unethical."
>
> Im not nitpicking, but if you reference a text to prove your point, I'll
> tend to hold you to that text pretty firmly, at least initially.
>
> so yes, 313 is unmoderated, but IMO it should be since it wanders off topic
> enough for people to jump ship (Mike Taylor?)
>
> of course, we could argue semantics all day long. back to detroit techno
>
> back to my cage,
> -Joe
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Bate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: ":P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [313] submerge.panel
>
> > >From what I understand, this is a self moderated list. From the list
> > guidelines:
> >
> > http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/
> >
> > Regarding Content and Community
> >
> > 313 content is not moderated and never will be, therefore we rely on 313
> list
> > members to 'self-police' 313 using the mechanisms described above. After
> five
> > plus years 313 has become a community and should be thought of as such.
> Like
> > any community (Detroit included) 313 is only as strong as every member
> makes it.
> >
> > In that spirit we ask you respect the following principles:
> >
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> and
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> using
> > 313 as
> > chat room is not permitted. Please note placing 'OT', standing
> for
> > off-topic,
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> in no
> > way
> > excuses you from adhering to this rule.
> > Do not attempt to steal another list subscribers email identity
> (and,
> > yes,
> > this has happened in past).
> > Do not repost private email to 313. Likewise do not reply to
> private
> > email
> > and 'CC' 313. This is both illegal (falling under the
> reproduction of
> > an original
> > copyrighted work without permission) and highly unethical.
> Arguments
> > belong in private email, not in email that is addressed to 313,
> check
> > your
> > 'To: ' and 'CC: ' email header fields carefully before sending
> out
> > email - it
> > may save you more embarassment than you thought possible.
> > Try not to swear. More and more corporate sites are using
> profanity
> > firewalls resulting in fellow 313 subscribers behind those
> firewalls
> > mis
> >
> > :P wrote:
> >
> > > this list desperately needs moderation
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:31 AM
> > > Subject: RE: Re[2]: [313] submerge.panel
> > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: 06 June 2002 15:18
> > > > >
> > > > > LKS> how would you measure this?
> > > > >
> > > > > BBP> Average life expectancy, infant mortality rates, literacy, et
> > > cetera.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > uhm...so do you believe the most country that is the most
> > > > > technologically advanced, the US, is sitting on top of these
> > > > > statistics because it's not
> > > >
> > > > Ah, but is the US the most technologically advanced country in the
> world
> > > > anyway? It probably isn't you know. It's a very diverse place and as
> you
> > > > say, inner city areas as well as remote rural backwaters aren't very
> > > > technologically advanced places. Countries like Finland, Norway or
> Japan
> > > are
> > > > arguably more technologically advanced all in all. But there aren't
> many
> > > > metrics for measuring the technological advancement of a particular
> > > nation,
> > > > in the same way as we use literacy, mortality rates, etc, to measure
> > > overall
> > > > standard of living.
> > > >
> > > > But ultimately I don't think it impacts on techno music all in all.
> What
> > > > stance should UR or Submerge take on this issue? Should the process of
> > > > globalisation be stopped, so that records can't be exported to the
> rest of
> > > > the world? Does techno music pose the dangerous risk of homogenising
> > > > European culture? To me, techno is one of the *good* things about
> > > > globalisation; on one hand, you get Starbucks, McDonalds, and other
> > > sterile
> > > > forces spreading throughout the globe. But on the other hand, you get
> new
> > > > cultural phenomena, like techno, which are not geographically
> specific,
> > > and
> > > > allow people of diverse backgrounds and ideologies relate to one
> another
> > > and
> > > > feel part of the greater whole.
> > > >
> > > > Brendan
> > > >
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